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Old October 7th, 2013, 03:58 AM   #1
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Default Saving two Phrags - after some rotting

Hi all, I just wanted to share a couple of experiences with two Phrags I have had. Both plant were rotting and I nearly lost both. They were both mature Phrags and the following is a story about never giving up on these unless absolutely necessary when growing these. I will explain further:

First plant - Phrag Living Fire "Lakeside' 4N AM/AOC

Early last year I moved house but whilst in transit and getting a new orchid house at my new house I let someone look after this one for me. It's the only palnt he killed but it was completed rotted - see photo below. There was no sign of green at all BUT the roots were still perfectly healthy. It was a typical brown rot that rotted away the entire crown as it was in a position that was too wet with no airmovement. As you can imagine this is a pretty good plant that was due to flower soon and a division in high demand. I certainly didn't want to lose it as it would be unlikely I would be able to obrain another one. So here it a photo of the top completely rotted but the roots are unbelievably still healthy under the coconut.



Nearly 18 months later now and I didn't give up. I put the plant in the back corner of my orchid house. I remember the previous owner telling me to never give up on Phrags if the roots are still ok and I didn't. Eventually with regular watering and gentle sunlight........this is what we have today.




Plant number 2. Phrag Bel al '4N'

This plant got the soft rot problem that often phrags and paphs can get. I wish I had a photo of the before as the growth was nearly flowering size and looked beautiful. However when the soft rot started I cut back each leaf below where the rot was forming. It would not go away and continued to spread down into the crown despite any effort to stop it so in the end I cut the entire growth off. The new growth was gone, there was no green except for the old flowered growth you can see. I had a better feeling about this one as it had the old growth for energy. Anyway as you can see there are now two new growths coming and although it might be a few years before it flowers again at least I have saved the plant. Te key for me is patience, I only cut the growth about 4 or 5 months ago so it's making some progress with 2 new growths coming.



Close up to the new growths:




The plants together.......




So the moral of the story is........if you have a plant which has rotted on the crown but the roots are strong and healthy........don't give up! They will eventually come back to you. Just keep them isolated from your other plants until you are sure the coast is clear.

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Old October 7th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #2
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Awsome ! but I think coco chips rot plants, harbour pests and go green with algae.
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Awsome ! but I think coco chips rot plants, harbour pests and go green with algae.
That's not my experience especially in the dry climate I live in. The chips I get are well treated and work well on Cymbidiums and Phrags, I don't use them on anything else though.

I haven't seen any pests or algae on my chips and the roots have never rotted. The leaves were a result of air movement problems and being generally too wet.

But not every potting medium will work for everyone.
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That's not my experience especially in the dry climate I live in. The chips I get are well treated and work well on Cymbidiums and Phrags, I don't use them on anything else though.

I haven't seen any pests or algae on my chips and the roots have never rotted. The leaves were a result of air movement problems and being generally too wet.

But not every potting medium will work for everyone.
Your last statement rings true!
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How are they doing now? I hope they are alright.
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How are they doing now? I hope they are alright.
Oh yes, coming into spring their growth has ramped up. I expect by April they will have really jumped ahead. Fingers crossed anyway.

Woohoo my repotting starts tomorrow!
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Oh yes, coming into spring their growth has ramped up. I expect by April they will have really jumped ahead. Fingers crossed anyway.

Woohoo my repotting starts tomorrow!
That is good to know! Keeping fingers crossed.
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How are the plants doing now? Just curious.
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You won't believe it, they are doing beautifully.

To go from no growths to where they are now is amazing.

One plant would have a 6 or 7 inch growth on it and another plant has two well developed growths.

I am hopeful they will flower in the next 2 to 3 years or so.
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