A paph or a phrag?

Hi Eric in general Phrags grow faster than Paphs especially the Phrag hybrids. Most Paphs do grow very painfully slow.

Hi Eric in general Phrags grow faster than Paphs especially the Phrag hybrids. Most Paphs do grow very painfully slow.

:iagree: This is usually the norm except in a few circumstances.

Thanks for the replies!

You're welcome! :D

Eric, the long petaled Phrag species are the slowest growing but their hybrids with longifolium like Phrag Grande can grow very fast.

Eric, the long petaled Phrag species are the slowest growing but their hybrids with longifolium like Phrag Grande can grow very fast.

:iagree::iagree:

Eric, the long petaled Phrag species are the slowest growing but their hybrids with longifolium like Phrag Grande can grow very fast.

Thanks Peter that is good to know!

In general, Phrags are larger plants too. They grow into large clumps faster than Paphs.

In general, Phrags are larger plants too. They grow into large clumps faster than Paphs.

:iagree: So true!

I have often wondered this myself but now I know.

Thanks for posting this newbie!

You're welcome and I'm glad that I asked!

Eric, the long petaled Phrag species are the slowest growing but their hybrids with longifolium like Phrag Grande can grow very fast.

Peter the grande I got from you grows as fast as weeds...so true!

I have another question. What are the long petaled phrags?

I have another question. What are the long petaled phrags?

There are not that many.

Phrag caudatum
Phrag popowii
Phrag wallisii
Phrag lindenii This one is the pouchless species.

Thanks Nancy! I didnt know there were only 4 but that was helpful.

There are not that many.

Phrag caudatum
Phrag popowii
Phrag wallisii
Phrag lindenii This one is the pouchless species.

You left out Phragmipedium exstaminodium.

You left out Phragmipedium exstaminodium.

:DThank you Peter!

Thanks Peter! I knew you guys would have the answer.

Another question and I hope I'm not asking too many questions. Are these hard to grow?

Another question and I hope I'm not asking too many questions. Are these hard to grow?

These are usually not recommended for beginners because they are somewhat hard to grow. And don't worry about asking too many questions. :D

Another question and I hope I'm not asking too many questions. Are these hard to grow?

The long petaled Phrag species are very prone to bacterial rot so they can be quite picky and fussy to take care of. Other species like the longifolium types are less forgiving, faster growing and easier to grow.

Thanks Peter! I need to have some more experience before I can try these!

These are usually not recommended for beginners because they are somewhat hard to grow. And don't worry about asking too many questions. :D

Ok thanks Nancy!

Depends on the group: I break it down into several group for each type.

Paph:
fast : maudiae/ molted leaf species (barbata, callosum, appletonianum, etc.)
fast: plain leaf single flower species (charlesworthii, fairrienum, etc.)
medium: bulldog type paph
slow: multi-flora paph

Phrag:
FAST : bessea/ primary hybrids
fast-medium : longifolium type hybrids/species
very slow: caudatum type hybrids/species

Now there are some exception in each group so.

Thank you that is very helpful!