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Roy May 20th, 2009, 08:33 AM Browsing thru the forum I notice that none of the members have commented on the new Phrag species described and pictured in the March "Orchids".
Phrag manzurii, which looks like a green besseae with a pink pouch. Did this one slip by or is it a non event ?????
orchidlover May 20th, 2009, 09:14 AM Actually I was going to mention it this morning and you beat me to it LOL. This is the new Phrag named Phragmipedium manzurii http://www.orchidspecies.com/phragmanzurii.htm I thought it was really interesting and to me it resembles more of a schlimii than a besseae. More lovely hybrids in the future!:hyper:
orchidlover May 20th, 2009, 09:34 AM A little more description here (http://www.jardinbotanicolankester.org/lankesteriana/Lankesteriana%208(3)_/Numero%20por%20secciones/04%20Higgins&Viveros.pdf).
Picture from the Marie Selby Botanical Gardens
http://www.selby.org/clientuploads/phragmipediummanzuri.jpg
Paphi May 20th, 2009, 09:45 AM very very pretty:heart::heart::heart:
skipper May 20th, 2009, 11:12 AM Very nice looking new phrag. I like it.
Bill Zimmerman May 20th, 2009, 11:18 AM I wouldn't call it a non event since this is a very interesting new species. It is along the lines of schlimii, closely related along with fischeri. I kind of took it for granted that most people saw it in Orchids a couple of months ago.
dragonfly22 May 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM Unlike the discovery of kovachii, this new species looks like another schlimii to most growers so not a big deal but it is still a new and exciting discovery for the more serious growers.
Tom S May 20th, 2009, 06:03 PM Beautiful new phrag species!
Paphy57 May 20th, 2009, 07:31 PM Nice looking discovery! I like the color!
Roy May 20th, 2009, 08:40 PM I wouldn't call it a non event since this is a very interesting new species. It is along the lines of schlimii, closely related along with fischeri. I kind of took it for granted that most people saw it in Orchids a couple of months ago.
Bill, I didn't mean anything bad by saying 'non event' it just seemed that with all the Phrag growers in the various forum something would be posted. I like it very much because "its not RED" for a change and is pleasing to the eye, for me anyway.
It will be interesting to see which way it breeds for color ie whether the green color is recessive or not. As long as its used with a yellow/alba form Phrag as the other parent.
Paul B May 20th, 2009, 10:46 PM thats a nice new discovery but not as exciting looking as the last one discovered the Kovachii.
Slipperguy May 21st, 2009, 12:49 AM thats a nice new discovery but not as exciting looking as the last one discovered the Kovachii.
:iagree: ...nice color
valenzino May 21st, 2009, 08:34 AM I think is very interesting discovery.Particularly because there are no other micropetalum with green colour and so much white.
An albino form(all white or white and green) will give possibility to produce a complete new line in hybrids(have to see what his genetic will give to outcome).
orchidlover May 22nd, 2009, 11:44 AM It looks so much like schlimii I'm sure the lumpers would love to call it schlimii var manzurii. :lol:
Paphraguy May 22nd, 2009, 06:09 PM Not really spectacular looking so maybe that was why this new species didn't cause a stir. Looks like a green colored schlimii to me.
Paphy57 May 22nd, 2009, 08:39 PM It looks so much like schlimii I'm sure the lumpers would love to call it schlimii var manzurii. :lol:
LOL.. I am sure that is very true!
orchidlover June 15th, 2009, 03:52 PM I found another picture of Phrag manzurii that I thought I would share it with you guys.
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-02/44974166.jpg
Paphi June 15th, 2009, 04:30 PM very very nice pretty:heart::heart::heart:
Rocco June 15th, 2009, 05:53 PM It is definitely a great and interesting new species and it will add to even more hybrids for the future.
skipper June 15th, 2009, 07:47 PM That is a better picture. Very nice looking.
newbie June 15th, 2009, 09:59 PM I like how the flower looks. I think it looks great!
casey June 15th, 2009, 11:34 PM I didn't know there was a new Phrag discovered. I think it is quite pretty and has nice interesting color.
Casey
Slipperguy June 16th, 2009, 01:03 AM Lovely phrag...lovely pic...thnx:cool:
ejchow84 October 30th, 2009, 09:56 PM Anyone know if Piping Rock Orchids has this yet? I know they have imported some more new phrag species, but I'm not sure which
orchidlover October 31st, 2009, 09:04 AM Anyone know if Piping Rock Orchids has this yet? I know they have imported some more new phrag species, but I'm not sure which
I doubt it but you can always email them and ask.
Shiva December 12th, 2009, 05:46 AM The second picture is indeed more appealing. Sometimes it's all in the presentation when it was first published. It would be interesting to see the result of a cross with a yellow besseae.
Thanks anyway for reminding us of it's existence. I admit not seeing it the first time around.
Michel :cool:
newbie December 12th, 2009, 07:48 AM I also think a cross with the yellow besseae would make a very good combination!
Chosen One December 12th, 2009, 03:36 PM It is always great to see new discoveries! Nice one.
lily-dude January 2nd, 2010, 04:54 AM itīs really astonishing that beauties as phr. kovachii, andrettae or manzurii have been hidden in the jungle for such a long time! i love them, and i hope to get at least one good kovachii clone in 2010!
;)
markus
newbie January 2nd, 2010, 08:01 AM If a specie like kovachi iwith big purple flowers was hidden for that long what else could be hiding in the jungle!
phragmip January 2nd, 2010, 09:13 AM I love this new one! There are still many new ones to be found I'm sure of that.
lily-dude January 2nd, 2010, 11:22 AM ...........there is also an alba-form of p. kovachii missing - i guess, this would be another popular song :hyper:
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