View Full Version : Cypripedium seedlings for interested Slipper Forum members


fundulopanchax
April 20th, 2007, 11:36 AM
Last spring there was a discussion of providing Cypripedium seedlings to members (in the US only, sorry!) at cost of media, package, and postage to encourage people to try the genus. Several members contributed pods and I have grown some seedlings.

If you want some, I can send you 12 seedlings for $10. The money is simply to cover the cost of media, packaging and postage. I would prefer to send anyone who orders them a mixture - labeled! - of Cyp reginae, Cyp Favillianum, and Cyp pubescens. Since pubescens grows in flask much more slowly than reginae or Favillianum I dont have as many of them so if demand is high, you may get half reginae and half Favillianum. The seedlings have been vernalized and will be ready to plant in pots in mid-May.

I will contact the pod donors to send them seedlings for their help.

To avoid overwhelming the private boxes here, if interested in obtaining seedlings, send an email message to the following address and I will send you growing instructions and address: ron@gardensatposthill.com .

Best,

Ron Burch

Slipperguy
April 23rd, 2007, 07:54 PM
Awesome deal :cool: ...I would love to try cyps but I'm afraid I'll kill them.

hjohn
April 23rd, 2007, 09:15 PM
Ron, I would also like some but it is really hot here in Florida. Can you grow these in the heat?

John

Paphy57
April 23rd, 2007, 09:51 PM
OOH! they are not the ones for heat! If the roots get over 75 degrees for an extended period, they will die.

fundulopanchax
April 24th, 2007, 11:53 AM
Ron, I would also like some but it is really hot here in Florida. Can you grow these in the heat?

John

Hi, John,

In Florida you would have to grow indoors under lights - if you keep the house cool! Cyps have a very hard time in Florida even if you give them great care. Tom Velardi on the forum lived in Florida and kept them for a while - if I recall correctly, he put them out during the winter and refrigerated them during the summer!

Ron

cbarry
April 24th, 2007, 12:38 PM
Ron,

I live on LI, NY and I would love to try them. I grow under lights, almost exclusively (a few go outside in the summer). I'm great with stans, catasetums, paphs, and have been doing well with phrags, just to give you a rough idea of my growing conditions. Might they work for me? I wouldn't want to kill them.

Thank you!
Carolyn

Tom Velardi
April 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Hi, John,

In Florida you would have to grow indoors under lights - if you keep the house cool! Cyps have a very hard time in Florida even if you give them great care. Tom Velardi on the forum lived in Florida and kept them for a while - if I recall correctly, he put them out during the winter and refrigerated them during the summer!

Ron

@Ron and John!

I did manage to grow a couple Cyps in Florida (yes, the act of a desperate addict) for a couple years. I got two salvaged plants from Carson Whitlow: a parviflorum and reginae. The parviflorum grew and even flowered dutifully for me, but never increased in size. The reginae flowered the second season . Neither was happy even though they survived.

I also tried some seedlings from Bill Steele. All died within a matter of two years, even kentuckiense.

SO, I wouldn't suggest trying them in Florida unless you can afford an indoor setup that can sustain them (in my opinion, not worth the effort).

fundulopanchax
April 25th, 2007, 08:59 AM
@Ron and John!


unless you can afford an indoor setup that can sustain them (in my opinion, not worth the effort).

I am shocked!!!! :-)

Of course they are worth it - but it is expensive and space-consuming.

Ron

Paphy57
April 25th, 2007, 04:49 PM
OH MY!
Not Worth it?!?!?
You are the super cyp addict!

fundulopanchax
April 26th, 2007, 11:47 AM
Ron,

I live on LI, NY and I would love to try them. I grow under lights, almost exclusively (a few go outside in the summer). I'm great with stans, catasetums, paphs, and have been doing well with phrags, just to give you a rough idea of my growing conditions. Might they work for me? I wouldn't want to kill them.

Thank you!
Carolyn

If you cool them in winter they grow well with Paphs and Phrags - they like a good bit of water like the Phrags.

Best,

Ron

TEE530
May 1st, 2007, 03:30 PM
Carolyn,

I've had luck with these both in the ground (heavily amended planting bed) and in large-ish pots. I overwinter them outside, either mulching the beds, or sinking the pots to the rim and throwing pine boughs over them. Definitely possible in your area if you pick a spot that doesn't bake in the sun. You're already doing Bletilla and Habenaria, c'mon, try some cyps!

cbarry
May 3rd, 2007, 12:13 AM
Well, thanks for the encouragement! I received my seedlings from Ron, and they are now potted up and inside the house. I should keep them more shaded, as seedlings, right? They're near the end of 4 x 40 W x 48 in fluorescent tubes right now. I've got my fingers crossed!

And about how long should it take before I should see some growth? Or, when should I get nervous that I did something terribly wrong :O

Thanks,
Carolyn

dionaea
May 4th, 2007, 09:22 AM
Hi Ron and all,
Just received my seedlings yesterday too ! Very nice and healthy. These are going into my greenhouse this morning along with my other cool growers.
Thank you again Ron, for giving us a chance to have these wonderful plants.
I think more people should give these a go. Any true orchid lover knows how nice these plants can be.
Later, Carl

fundulopanchax
May 4th, 2007, 01:53 PM
I am pleased that they are arriving! If your seedlings are breaking dormancy when planted (fat light-green swollen buds) they will come up almost immediately. If they are still asleep, they may easily take a month to wake up and grow. When I was packing them I noticed that most of the reginae were still quite asleep as were most of the favillianum. A few favillianum were beginning to swell.

Keep them moist and with light nearby (not direct sunlight!) and you should see stirrings by the end of May.

Ron

cbarry
May 11th, 2007, 12:07 AM
I have buds!! I have buds!!

I noticed the beginnings of little buds swelling in both of the types (Favillianum
and reginae) of cyps Ron sent me! I also noticed a root starting to head down along the edge of 1 pot.

So it's been about a week since I potted them up.

Did I mention that I HAVE BUDS!!!

=:0
Carolyn

budsbud
May 11th, 2007, 01:34 AM
I have buds!! I have buds!!

I noticed the beginnings of little buds swelling in both of the types (Favillianum
and reginae) of cyps Ron sent me! I also noticed a root starting to head down along the edge of 1 pot.

So it's been about a week since I potted them up.

Did I mention that I HAVE BUDS!!!

=:0
Carolyn

Yes, Carolyn! But do they have BUDS? :p

That is so awesome!!! :woohoo:

fundulopanchax
May 11th, 2007, 10:45 AM
I have buds!! I have buds!!

I noticed the beginnings of little buds swelling in both of the types (Favillianum
and reginae) of cyps Ron sent me! I also noticed a root starting to head down along the edge of 1 pot.

So it's been about a week since I potted them up.

Did I mention that I HAVE BUDS!!!

=:0
Carolyn

Congratulations! That was very fast, they are really ready! I will be planting mine out this weekend.

Ron

Paphy57
May 11th, 2007, 08:50 PM
I need to know what medium in pots works best. The local stores don't have turface. I was recommended cactus mix, but I didn't trust the man because he was just an employee at lowe's.

cbarry
May 11th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Yes, Carolyn! But do they have BUDS? :p


LOL Ralph, well *those* buds are still a few years away. Right now I'm happy enough to have made it past the 1st hurdle !

Carolyn

budsbud
May 11th, 2007, 11:50 PM
Wait!!! Okay, forgive me if this is stupid; remember I am a newbie here still.

The buds take a few years to open? :confused:

jediknl1
May 12th, 2007, 12:22 AM
In this cace the "buds" are the new leaf growths. The will not have flower "Buds" until the grow up. It will be a few yrs. These go dormant every yr and have to be kept cold over the winter and "bud" with new leaf growth every spring.
Dawn

cbarry
May 12th, 2007, 10:46 AM
Wait!!! Okay, forgive me if this is stupid; remember I am a newbie here still.

The buds take a few years to open? :confused:

I thought that you were busting *my* chops! These are like just recently deflasked seedlings, so they're several years away from blooming. When I potted them up, they looked like salad bean sprouts, and what I'm seeing is the nub of the actual plant just starting to break dormancy and start to grow, an eye if you will.

Carolyn

rdlsreno
May 16th, 2007, 12:33 AM
I don't know if I can grow them in Reno.

Thanks!

Ramon:D

budsbud
May 16th, 2007, 11:05 AM
In this cace the "buds" are the new leaf growths. The will not have flower "Buds" until the grow up. It will be a few yrs. These go dormant every yr and have to be kept cold over the winter and "bud" with new leaf growth every spring.
Dawn

I thought that you were busting *my* chops! These are like just recently deflasked seedlings, so they're several years away from blooming. When I potted them up, they looked like salad bean sprouts, and what I'm seeing is the nub of the actual plant just starting to break dormancy and start to grow, an eye if you will.

Carolyn

Thank you guys for the explanation!

Hien
May 16th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Last spring there was a discussion of providing Cypripedium seedlings to members (in the US only, sorry!) at cost of media, package, and postage to encourage people to try the genus. Several members contributed pods and I have grown some seedlings.

If you want some, I can send you 12 seedlings for $10. The money is simply to cover the cost of media, packaging and postage. I would prefer to send anyone who orders them a mixture - labeled! - of Cyp reginae, Cyp Favillianum, and Cyp pubescens. Since pubescens grows in flask much more slowly than reginae or Favillianum I dont have as many of them so if demand is high, you may get half reginae and half Favillianum. The seedlings have been vernalized and will be ready to plant in pots in mid-May.

I will contact the pod donors to send them seedlings for their help.

To avoid overwhelming the private boxes here, if interested in obtaining seedlings, send an email message to the following address and I will send you growing instructions and address: ron@gardensatposthill.com .

Best,

Ron Burch

Ron , would they survive New Jersey temperature?

Paphy57
May 16th, 2007, 06:31 PM
Yeah! They survive zone 6a. I have seen them in michigan.

Paphraguy
May 17th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Ron , would they survive New Jersey temperature?

Hien, I think they would do fine in New Jersey, Cyps grow there naturally after all.

fundulopanchax
May 18th, 2007, 10:55 AM
These species easily take temperatures down to -20 F or so and some even lower. As long as they have adequate shading in the summer to avoid the heat they do very well. Clark Riley has a very nice collection in Baltimore, and as an ex-inhabitant of that magnificient place, I can attest that it gets very hot in summer there.

Ron

IdahoOrchid
May 20th, 2007, 02:11 PM
I HAVE A LEAF!!!!:woohoo::Party::cool:

This is on one of my reginae plants. This plant is now about 3/4 inch tall today. There are a couple of other green shoots pushing up too.

The Favillianum is just barely starting to show some signs of growth.

I think I may have planted them a little too deeply but have removed a bit of the substrate from the top until I saw the buds.

Substrate: I am using some hybrid mixed stuff for mine that includes cinder, perlite and pine bark. There is probably some turface like material in there too. When I get a chance to take a picture of the plant I will get one of the substrate too.

I'll go start a thread to discuss this rather than here in the for sale section.

goldenrose
May 20th, 2007, 06:56 PM
OH BOY! More pics soon!