I was trying to find the thread where we spoke about this cross, but could not remember what it was so figured it was probably better to make a new one on the topic.

One of the 3 that are currently in spike (this is from Marilyn's cross of besseae var. flavum 'Windy Hill' x schlimii 'Pink Ice' JC/AOS) is starting to open. True to what Marilyn told me, it appears to be very white with just a very slight pink tinge running down the center of the pouch.

If i remember correctly, Rob, you flowered several plants of this cross but got all peachy or pinkish flowers?

It's only about 1/2 way open so perhaps the colour will change slightly as it ages, but for now, most of the flower is a greenish white.

I'll take photos on Saturday as my camera is with a friend until then!

Lien

My Hanne Popow is from a flavum besseae, and it is definitely a peachy color, with a pinkish pouch...there is a photo of it on Rob Zuiderzwiik's Phragweb site (apologies for the spelling, Rob....) http://www.phragweb.info/phragmipedium/hybrids/infrageneric/photos/display_infhybrid_thumbnails_phrag.asp?phrag_id=13 8&phrag_name=Hanne+Popow
Take care, Eric

Eric - very pretty - your's, Dennis's and the white ones are my favorites. Hopefully my new one which is w/ the flavum variety, will spike soon.

I was trying to find the thread where we spoke about this cross, but could not remember what it was so figured it was probably better to make a new one on the topic.

One of the 3 that are currently in spike (this is from Marilyn's cross of besseae var. flavum 'Windy Hill' x schlimii 'Pink Ice' JC/AOS) is starting to open. True to what Marilyn told me, it appears to be very white with just a very slight pink tinge running down the center of the pouch.

If i remember correctly, Rob, you flowered several plants of this cross but got all peachy or pinkish flowers?

It's only about 1/2 way open so perhaps the colour will change slightly as it ages, but for now, most of the flower is a greenish white.

I'll take photos on Saturday as my camera is with a friend until then!

Lien

Yes, mine all bloomed out pink or peach. But yours sounds quite nice. I do really like the pictures of the white ones on Phragweb...

Yeah the white ones are very nice! Can't wait to see yours!

In the other thread where we discussed this cross, Rob made the comment that the white(r) Hanne Popows probably depend on the P. schlimii parent used.

I was going through Marilyn's site today (not that I need anymore plants but but I can't stop myself). Anyhow, I found a description of the P. schlimii parent she used.

She says: "‘Pink Ice’ is a near white clone with just touches of pink"

Lien

This is the first of the three of these in spike to open. Not very great form but the colour is interesting. I'm not sure if this plant will continue producing crappy formed flowers or if they will improve. it's a first bloom on a very small plant on a weak spike. Also, Phrags never bloom very nice for me in the summer, way too hot.

This is from Marilyn's cross, P. besseae var. flavum 'Windy Hill' x P. schlimii 'Pink Ice' JC/AOS

http://www.lienluu.com/sof/hp1.JPG

Lien

I agree, the form isn't great, but the color is pretty neat! I have schlimii 'pink ice' as one of the parents of my schlimii. I look forward to seeing your other two.

SO, Lien, whatever happened w/ the other two of these you had in spike?
Now, my interested is piqued again.....Any thoughts or pics? THANKS!

It is really lovely!!! I do not know enough to offer advice. The colors are lovely!! Since it is such a new bloom, doesn't it get time to mature & straighten itself out????

Interesting color on that one. DId they all bloom like that?

Between the Phrag. Hanne Popow from one seed-capsule in the collection of my friend I could find normal coloured, a little bit rose coloured and also yellow one.
As examples here two different clones. I made the first picture a short time after opening the flower. Some days later the petals turned also a little bit.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/og48/HannePopowWssen-besseaeflavumxschli.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/og48/HannePopow-besseaeflavumxschlimiikl.jpg

When you want a real yellow one, then you must buy the plant in flower. You cannot be sure from the young unflowered plant.

Best greetings

Olaf

Well, those are lovely - particularly I like the first.
True Olaf - no telling what mine will end up as. I will be most likely happy with any!
I believe the source and parents of mine to be different from Lien's.

Still...wondering about those other two. :)

Still...wondering about those other two. :)

the other two bloomed out similar, very white. I pinched the spikes (on all of them) off to let the plants focus on growing (first bloom on single growths).

Hello all,
Congraduatlion on those lovely Phrag Hanne Popow 'flavum' I have bloomed several . OUt of all these only one is fragrant. Has anyone else noticed a faint but sweet scent from Hanne?
Happy growing ,
Lindafrog

Hello all,
Congraduatlion on those lovely Phrag Hanne Popow 'flavum' I have bloomed several . OUt of all these only one is fragrant. Has anyone else noticed a faint but sweet scent from Hanne?
Happy growing ,
Lindafrog

I have bloomed several that smell (to me) of raspberry. I think that comes from schlimii. Interestingly, although I think the fragrance is quite intense, my wife can't smell it. An informal poll (my orchid society), seemed to reveal about 50/50 smellers/nosmellers. Kind of neat...

Hi,

I am new to this forum and I just posted a relpy to a thread about Phrag. exstaminodium, so those who have not read that thread here is a little bit about myself:

I work for Jerry Fischer at Orchids Limited here in Minnesota, USA and I do all his lab work and breeding work. My background is in Plant Breeding and Genetics, and I have done some Plant Taxonomy, Tissue Culture and Plant Cytogenetics in the past, but have always had a passion for orchids.

FYI:

I backcrossed one of our flavum colored Hanne Popov's to our 4N yellow besseae, and this was the result:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/Hanne%20popow/SaintOuen-flavum-PeachHeart.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/Hanne%20popow/P.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/Hanne%20popow/Phrag.jpg

The colors have ranged from a pale yellow, bright yellow, yellow with a little peach in the center to a peach color.


DrOrchid (aka Robert-Jan Quene)

That last one is great. Almost white.

Kyle

I love them ALL!
Has there been one color form more prevalent than the others?
I'm pretty sure we've got a thread around here somewhere about those St. Ouens.
I can't find it right now but will keep looking.

About 25 % have been flavum-colored with no red pigments in the flowers (ranging from pale yellow to bright yellow), and about 75% have had red pigments, but again they range from having just a little bit of pigments, to being entirely peach colored.

Robert

Great looking flowers and photos and welcome to the forum, Robert! :D

About 25 % have been flavum-colored with no red pigments in the flowers (ranging from pale yellow to bright yellow), and about 75% have had red pigments, but again they range from having just a little bit of pigments, to being entirely peach colored.

Robert

I admit I am partial to the more peachy ones, so I have been particularly curious about the ratios. Though, truly, I'll be thrilled no matter how it turns out I'm sure.
Here's that other thread (which kind of derailed in my impulsive buying spree, sorry about that.)

http://www.slipperorchidforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1644&highlight=ouen

Yes, the Saint Ouen pictures above are from the same cross that are posted on the other thread.

I personally agree, and I like the yellow with just a little bit of peach color in them the best (the first picture); that particular flower also had an excellent shape, and was probably award quality, but you know how that goes, by the time there was judging (which was last weekend, when I and Jason Fischer went to Milwaukee) the flower had dropped off :cry: but luckily a flower of another cross that I had made (Elizabeth Castle x besseae) had just opened and I brought that along, and it got an AM/AOS of 86 points!! ... I will post a picture of it in the near future.

Robert

Dear Robert,
I have noticed (and have talked w/ others about this) that the micropetalums in bud tend to not take to shipping very well. I wonder if it is the lack of airflow, or temps or what? Have you had any other comments about that, or reasons as to why? Some here say it is me, however, I have had more besseae related in-bud plants blast after shipping in all seasons than any other plants. I must add, though I've had mostly micropetalums shipped in sheath/bud, and not other Phrags, all my Paphs that have arrived that way have been fine. So I wonder. I'd love to know the reason behind it in attempts to avoid it!

Oh, and REALLY (!!) they should have AOS judging every week! Not my fault my wallisii was too old, it was perfect a week earlier. :roll:

I think it is a matter of genetics, and all the members in the micropetalum group are just more sensitive to tissue damage of the flower petals, partly because instead of having more waxy flowers (like a Phrag. longifolium or Phrag. boissierianum) they have fine little hairs on the petals and pouch that bruise easily, and will make the petals turn brown. Also it has probably to do how well they are packed and tossed around during shipping.

Robert

Beautiful flowers. Very nice to see the color comparison. Thanks Robert :D