View Full Version : Phrags: What's In spike/bud?


Paphraguy
September 28th, 2006, 08:03 PM
This is a spinoff of Teresa's thread in the Paph section. :D

I don't have that many Phrags in spike/bud.

Phrags in bloom:
Phrag schlimii
Phrag longifolium (in bloom since 2002 non stop, very sick of looking at it!)
Phrag ecuadorense

Phrags in bud:
Phrag Cardinale

Slipperguy
September 28th, 2006, 11:05 PM
I have only one phrag a phrag Grande which I got from you Pete and I think it is in bud. :woohoo:

Nynaeve
September 28th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Yeah there's a reason I didn't make a phrag thread..... :Yuck:

Paphraguy
September 29th, 2006, 12:00 AM
Yeah there's a reason I didn't make a phrag thread..... :Yuck:

You didn't make one for the non slipper orchids. :poke: :Grin:

Isis
September 29th, 2006, 02:49 AM
:woohoo: That Sedenii-type I mentioned in another thread is spiking! :whoo: My first Phrag to do something other then growing new shoots, nevermind it's my newest one. I hope it... :whip: the rest of them! ;)

/Cheers I

Nynaeve
September 29th, 2006, 08:04 AM
You didn't make one for the non slipper orchids.

There are non-slipper orchids? :p

Paphraguy
September 29th, 2006, 08:48 AM
:woohoo: That Sedenii-type I mentioned in another thread is spiking! :whoo: My first Phrag to do something other then growing new shoots, nevermind it's my newest one. I hope it... :whip: the rest of them! ;)

/Cheers I

:congrat: I look forward to seeing the blooms!

Isis
September 29th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Thanks Peter, so do I! I can hardley wait! :D I hope the flowers are photogenic too!;)

Good one Teresa! :slippers: They are special aren't they?!
/Cheers I

newbiez8OR
October 25th, 2006, 03:59 PM
Woo hoo! my first phrag to bud, Don Wimber Eric Young, Rocket Fire x bessea var Flavum. Hopefully it survives as I can't wait to see it.

Paphraguy
October 25th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Woo hoo! my first phrag to bud, Don Wimber Eric Young, Rocket Fire x bessea var Flavum. Hopefully it survives as I can't wait to see it.

Congrats! :woohoo: Do post photos if you can.

Nynaeve
October 25th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Congrats!!!! :cool: :heart: :woohoo: :Party:

wolfcreekmn
October 25th, 2006, 08:40 PM
The only Phrag that I have in bud now is
(Phrag. klotzscheanum X Phrag. fischeri) the first bud is just starting to open today I will post a picture when it opens.

Paphraguy
October 25th, 2006, 08:49 PM
The only Phrag that I have in bud now is
(Phrag. klotzscheanum X Phrag. fischeri) the first bud is just starting to open today I will post a picture when it opens.

Hi Eric,

That sounds like a nice and interesting hybrid. I'll be looking forward to seeing the photo.:cool:

Slipperguy
October 26th, 2006, 05:55 PM
:congrat: Lorna and Eric...:cool:

Stephan
October 27th, 2006, 04:10 AM
I'm on edge as I currently have the folowing plants in spike

Phrag Praying Mantis
Phrag pearcii x longifolium
Phrag Don Wimber
Phrag Schroderae x 2
Phrag Fred Wright

The pearcii x longifolium is just now opening and one of the Schroderae's looks to be huge. :)

Cheers
Stephan

Paphraguy
October 27th, 2006, 07:00 AM
I'm on edge as I currently have the folowing plants in spike

Phrag Praying Mantis
Phrag pearcii x longifolium
Phrag Don Wimber
Phrag Schroderae x 2
Phrag Fred Wright

The pearcii x longifolium is just now opening and one of the Schroderae's looks to be huge. :)

Cheers
Stephan

Excellent, Stephan! :good: Do post photos when they bloom.

Nynaeve
October 27th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Awesome Stephen! It will be nice to compare the Schroderae.

And I am happy to report that none of my phrags appear to be dying...:rolleyes:

Isis
October 27th, 2006, 08:18 AM
:woohoo: My first long-petaled Phrag. is also in spike!
The tag says wallisii x longifolium, and as you probably know the caudatum complex is a Taxonomical mess...:rolleyes:

So I guess I'll have to wait until it flowers to see if it's a Phragmipedium Paul Eugene Conroy or perhaps Phragmipedium Wössner Supergrande, according to Phragweb anyway... Kews world checklist of plant families says that Phrag. wallisii is a synonym of Phrag. warszewiczianum; "This name is Accepted by:Braem, G.J., Ohlund, S. & Quené, R.-J. (2004). The Real Phragmipedium warszewiczianum. A Clarification of the Phragmipedium caudatum Complex (Phragmipedium section Phragmipedium). Orquideología 23: 117-136."

However if you look at the "accepted by" tab for Phrag. wallisii you find that; This name is Accepted by:Govaerts, R. (2003). World Checklist of Monocotyledons Database in ACCESS: 1-71827. The Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.


:confused: I mean not even the checklist is consistent! :mad:

I'm still waiting for the Sedenii-type to open that bud up, but it looks like it's not too far away either. ;)

/Cheers I

Paphraguy
October 27th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Excellent Ida! :welldone: I'll be looking forward to seeing photos of your plant in bloom. :D

Nynaeve
October 27th, 2006, 08:56 AM
:woohoo: My first long-petaled Phrag. is also in spike!
The tag says wallisii x longifolium, and as you probably know the caudatum complex is a Taxonomical mess...:rolleyes:

So I guess I'll have to wait until it flowers to see if it's a Phragmipedium Paul Eugene Conroy or perhaps Phragmipedium Wössner Supergrande, according to Phragweb anyway... Kews world checklist of plant families says that Phrag. wallisii is a synonym of Phrag. warszewiczianum; "This name is Accepted by:Braem, G.J., Ohlund, S. & Quené, R.-J. (2004). The Real Phragmipedium warszewiczianum. A Clarification of the Phragmipedium caudatum Complex (Phragmipedium section Phragmipedium). Orquideología 23: 117-136."

However if you look at the "accepted by" tab for Phrag. wallisii you find that; This name is Accepted by:Govaerts, R. (2003). World Checklist of Monocotyledons Database in ACCESS: 1-71827. The Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.


:confused: I mean not even the checklist is consistent! :mad:

I'm still waiting for the Sedenii-type to open that bud up, but it looks like it's not too far away either. ;)


Very good Ida! I know what you mean about the long petaled synonyms. I usually see phrag warszewiczianum also referred to as popowii. All I know is that "popowii" is easier to spell and pronounce! I have not seen it interchanged with wallisii, however...very interesting!

Isis
October 27th, 2006, 08:58 AM
Thanks Peter, I look forward to sharing some photos of slippers as well! :mrgreen:

/Cheers I

Isis
October 27th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Teresa, I do hope it will be a good shaped one! :) This wallisii mess makes me wonder if anyone is checking the DNA - isn't it possible to compare these plants and see if it's one or more varieties :confused: (it can't be that hard to check just these can it?!)?!

popowii too, huh, - well that's definitley easier to spell and probably pronounce as well!

/Cheers I

Slipperguy
October 27th, 2006, 09:51 AM
Congrads...it must be phrag season.

Grandma MC
October 27th, 2006, 11:29 AM
These are the phrags I have in bloom now.

Saint Peter
Segrent Eric
Bel Croute
After Glow
Les Dirrioullies
Twilight X besseae 'Cow HallowII' - 2 in bloom now
Cajanuma Sunset
St Quen - 2 in bloom now
Hanna Popow "Noyo' X besseae 'Noyo'
Hanna Popow
Charmer X Cardinale 'Noyo' - (colchine-treated) I'm not sure what this is. This is what is written on the label.
Twilight 4N (Eric Young X 'Living Fire')
Longueville

Can anyone help clear up what the X Charmer X Cardinale 'Noyo might be?

Marilyn

Paphraguy
October 27th, 2006, 11:42 AM
Hi Marilyn,

Nice Phrags in bloom! I did a Google search on Charmer x Cardinale and it brought up Teresa's list on GW. :laugh2: So, maybe Teresa can weigh in, Teresa?:confused:

Slipperguy
October 27th, 2006, 12:37 PM
Nice phrags grandma...:cool:

Nynaeve
October 27th, 2006, 01:39 PM
Hi Marilyn,

Nice Phrags in bloom! I did a Google search on Charmer x Cardinale and it brought up Teresa's list on GW. :laugh2: So, maybe Teresa can weigh in, Teresa?:confused:

OMG...do I have this phrag? LOL I had to go and look for myself! I seriously need to update that list. Yes I do in fact have Phrag Hanne Popow 'Charmer' x Cardinale 'Noyo' in my collection. It is one I got from Sherwood orchids. Naturally because it is a phrag I have not bloomed it. :rolleyes: But it is putting out new growths and is not dying. :rolleyes: I am assuming it will look like a little pink fuzzy bloom. Colchine-treated I believe means there was a chemical added to the seeds in flask to make the plants or blooms bigger/better? I don't know the science behind it. Someone else will have to answer that. I know usually blooms that are colchine treated will have a yellowish line on the lateral petals.

Grandma MC
October 27th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Thanks Teresa

I didn't know it was Hanna Popow. Mine is in bloom so I will take a photo and post it.

Marilyn

brooklynphragmadman
October 27th, 2006, 04:30 PM
ugh i'm sliightly jealous. well not really but still none of mine are spiking. i think my st. swithin has sheaths but they're prolly be there until springtime. oh well i can wait. maybe i'll go out and buy a blooming orchid. lol yes i think that is what i'll do.

Paphraguy
October 27th, 2006, 04:54 PM
ugh i'm sliightly jealous. well not really but still none of mine are spiking. i think my st. swithin has sheaths but they're prolly be there until springtime. oh well i can wait. maybe i'll go out and buy a blooming orchid. lol yes i think that is what i'll do.

Instant gratification is the best! Happy happy joy joy!:D

Nynaeve
October 28th, 2006, 08:17 AM
ugh i'm sliightly jealous. well not really but still none of mine are spiking. i think my st. swithin has sheaths but they're prolly be there until springtime. oh well i can wait. maybe i'll go out and buy a blooming orchid. lol yes i think that is what i'll do.

Welcome to my world Charlie....:rolleyes:

Nynaeve
October 28th, 2006, 08:18 AM
I didn't know it was Hanna Popow. Mine is in bloom so I will take a photo and post it.


Yes please do! I gave mine heat stress big time this Summer. But it is recovering.