Last year I purchased a 3 growth plant of Paph. Hideki Okuyama -- (malipoense 'Wisconsin' x glanduliferum 'North'). This year one of the growth bloomed with 2 flowers on the same stem (as expected). A second growth produced a very short stem (only a inch tall) that produced a single flower. That was maybe 2 months ago. The flower was cut off when it died. Now a second spike has developed from the same growth (right next to the next first one). I have never had this happen before, so how common is this? It also looks like the 3rd growth in now setting a bud.

Thanks
Bob

This is extremely rare. Post pictures please.

I've never even heard of it mentioned in literature.

I have heard of them but never seen one in person except for in photos. Not extremely rare but uncommon nontheless.

yea i would like to see pictures also
must be a great grower bravo! :clap: :clap:

I've seen it before... Curiously on a glanduliferum (or praestans...) hybrid. I had a Jogjae that would do it all the time.

Aside from that Jogjae, I've seen it only a very few times.

Not very unusual ... Here are other examples :

http://www.tbg.org.tw/~tbgweb/cgi-bin/attachment.cgi?forum=62&topic=1063&postno=2&type=.jpg

http://www.tbg.org.tw/~tbgweb/cgi-bin/attachment.cgi?forum=62&topic=879&postno=4&type=.jpg

Hey Bob, I would really like to see that if possible. Thanks forgiving me the nmae of my plant. All I have is the parents labelled.

Avery, can you maybe explain each of those photos. Sorry I am kind of confused on what they show.
Thanks!
Tadd

The 2 plants shown above are moquetteanum and delenatii respectively.

They all bloomed a single flower with or without a very short stem (spike) in the middle of that mature growth. Both flowers are more or less deformed but they lasted just like other plants bloomed at the same time. Flower shed but no new growths were sent since they send out another spike looked more normal after 2 months. I did not take the second flower stems again but they are as normal as usual.

This occasionally happens and it may due to some physical disturbance before the spikes are sent. When the plants become well grown and well developed, it may not happen again ... So .. you cannot predict when it will happen !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/mokey113/Paphwithhighlight3.jpg


After MUCH work my wife was able to get this photo. On the bottom of the photo is where the first spike developed on a short 1" stem. This is labeled first in the photo. Now a second spike is developing from the very same growth. This is labeled New in the photo. Hope this helps.

That's really wild, Bob!


Not sure why the pic isn't showing up in the message, maybe because it is .bmp not .jpg or something, but if you copy and paste into your browser you can see it.

Bob, it's obvious!

The plant is thrilled about being grown in S/H culture!!!

(Insert big grin here)

That's a first for me. Very cool.

Now the photo is showing up, good!

Ray, you do great things with that S/H - it is not for me, but I know many who are curious about it or are using it succesfully. Thanks for all you do for the study and science of it! Very impressive and helpful! :joy:

"Oh I see" said the blind man to his deaf wife who couldn't read lips. That clears it up like a 16 year old with OXY

I once had a vini paph, I forget the cross, that used to bloom directly from the growth, without a stem....it looked peculiar, with this good sized bloom just sitting on top of the growth...kind of cute actually. After doing this for 2-3 successive blooms, it finally started to produce normal, long stemmed spikes. Interestingly, those blooms were never as large or as well shaped.
About 20 years ago, there was an article in the AOS Bulletin about a paph that produced 2 spikes from the same growth, simultaneously...I think it was called "Double Dove"....Take care, Eric

Whatever it was that caused it....I want one!!! :clap:

Susan

I actually got to see this yesterday on a big multifloral Vanguard. I now understand what the issue was. The reason there are 2 spikes, is that it is actually one spike that got "stuck" on one of the branching inflorescense. So the flower is really low on the plant. The spike will continue to grow past that flower stem and make it look like there are 2 spikes. My boss told me to completely remove the short stem from the center of the plant. Actually pull it all the way out. Hopefully the rest of the big spike will come out a bit more.

Eric, you have a great memory! This is so ironic. Today I was browsing thru some old issues of the AOS Bulletin that I recently bought on ebay. The June, 1986 issue has that photo you mentioned.

This was a first bloom seedling of Paph Wood Dove 'Darkling' HCC/AOS crossed with Paph philippinese. The grower was D.W. Randolph and he had proposed to name this grex Supercilli (first choice) or Double Dove (second choice). Don't know what happened since then.

I took a photo of the photo. Please excuse the flash, but you can see the two inflorescences quite clearly. It even looks like the bloom on the right might be putting out a smaller bud. What is really interesting about this plant, is that both of the inflorescences are the same height.

I absolutely LOVE the colors on this one. I wonder it it ever double bloomed again or whether this was a one time occurance?? I'd love to find one of these! (As I run off to google for it!) :twisted:

http://pic17.picturetrail.com:80/VOL796/117745/2501289/103612490.jpg

P.S. It has more reds & yellows in the magazine photo than it does in my reproduction.

Wow, that is pretty cool looking! Good investigative work Dick Tracy.. err Susan! :poke:

Those flowers look pretty interesting too.

Just pure coincidence, Tadd!! I was just browsing thru old copies of the AOS Bulletin and there it was. There was also an informative article about roths in that issue. I might shell out the bucks and join the AOS.

Thanking about it. They have some good info.

I might shell out the bucks and join the AOS.

Thanking about it. They have some good info.

Susan, I asked for it for my b-day and specified I wanted the two year subscription for the $30 coupon (which can be used at Norman's and Piping Rock, to name the Paph vendors on the list.) Also, the kicker for me was that my local botanical garden, also the site of my local AOS judging center, has reciprocal admission to AOS members, so I get in free! They charge $8. per person at their gate - so far my whole car full of people has gotten in free! :D So, there are some extra perks.

By any chance did you buy your plant from Glen Decker ? Reason I ask I had just bought one about a month ago mine are blooming size just waiting for a spike or two. Ray

Yes, I did get mine from Piping Rock. Got mine a year or two ago. This year it already bloomed on two of the three growths and it looks like the third growth is in bud.