I was recently left a beautiful blooming size caudatum from a dear friend and society member who passed away this last weekend and can't remember it's ID (along with many other beautiful and sentimental plants).

It is a well known cross from I think the Orchid Zone, ('Siebenthal' x 'Guatemala Market'). I seem to remember this as being warscewiczianum, but wasn't sure. If anyone knows whether its caudatum or warscewiczianum, I would really appreciate it. From the growth habit alone I would guess caudatum, but it could be a very happy warscewiczianum.

Jon

I'm not sure but I think Parkside (or another vendor) had that cross listed on their website a few years ago as a caudatum.

Both clones have been awarded by the AOS as caudatum. Siebenthal got an AM while Guatemala Market got an HCC.

--Stephen

Even though the parent plants were awarded as caudatum, I wouldn't be surprised if it is actually a warscewiczianum, especially when warscewiczianum was once considered a var of caudatum. I don't know exactly what it is because I have never seen it in person nor I'm a taxo. Jon, can you post a picture of the whole plant? Thanks!

Guatamaula market would imply warsewicz.. As caudatum is not native to that area.

Kyle

I believe that this was marketed as warscewiczianum by various vendors, but I haven't seen the original clones or the offspring to varify that.

hehe I think the flowers will have to tell the tale. From what I've read, warscewiczianum is just a variety of caudatum, but that argument looms large.

--Stephen

hehe I think the flowers will have to tell the tale. From what I've read, warscewiczianum is just a variety of caudatum, but that argument looms large.

--Stephen

Nope, warscewiczianum now called popowii is a separate species, not a caudatum variety.

hehe I think the flowers will have to tell the tale. From what I've read, warscewiczianum is just a variety of caudatum, but that argument looms large.

--Stephen

Nope, warscewiczianum now called popowii is a separate species, not a caudatum variety.

Although Atwood (1984) considers it to be an independent species, McCook (1989, 1998) considers warscewiczianum to be conspecific with caudatum and Gruss (2003) considers warscewiczianum to be a variety thereof. I have only heard 'popowii' in passing, but i don't know why it would take priority over warscewiczianum.

--Stephen

I will be sure to post pics of it when it blooms of course. Guatemala is what made me think warscewiczianum as well. WildCatt descriptions sound like warscewiczianum as well, or a darker caudatum as both were awarded when the two were considered the same.

As for popowii, this comes from Braem. Apparently the type specimen for warscewiczianum is a wallisii flower, making wallisii actually warscewiczianum and warscewiczianum an undescribed species(if you don't consider it a variety) that was described as popowii. I personally won't change my tags, but the RHS may change the hybrid registry.

Jon

Windy Hill registered Phrag. cadatum x warscewiczianum as "Majestic Tresses" in 1999. There's a good chance this is one.