View Full Version : Awarded Paph's and Phrag's at the St. Paul Winter Carnival
drorchid February 13th, 2006, 02:23 PM Following are pictures of our other awarded Paph's and Phrag's (Jason already posted the picture of the recently awarded Jason Fischer). They were all awarded this January at the Winter Carnival Show here in Saint Paul. We also got an AM for one of our Odm. Rawdon Jester's. They all got 80 points, except for the Don Wimber which got 88 points!
Phrag. Don Wimber 'Wimbledon Giant' AM/AOS (88 points)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/DonWWG.jpg
Phrag. Saint Ouen 'Peach Parfait' AM/AOS (80 points)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/StOPP.jpg
Paph. sukhakulii 'Big Bang' (80 points)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/sukBB.jpg
Paph. Irish Moss 'Greensleeves' AM/AOS (80 points)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/IrMsGs.jpg
Robert
Gideon February 13th, 2006, 02:26 PM Very nice, that Irish Moss is lovely
Bill Zimmerman February 13th, 2006, 02:58 PM I've never seen a Don Wimber colored that red, and the form is excellent. I would guess that a tetraploid bessae was used? Wow!
paphjoint February 13th, 2006, 03:14 PM I find the sukhakulii fabulous!!!! The flower shape is stunning !
nyorchids February 13th, 2006, 03:18 PM wow awsome looking plants! :clap:
drorchid February 13th, 2006, 03:24 PM Yes the Don Wimber was made with two tetraploid parents.
Following are pictures of both parents:
Phrag. besseae 'Rob's Choice' (4N) AM/AOS
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/besseaeRC.jpg
and Phrag. Eric Young 'Mount Millais' (4N)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/drorchid/EricYoungMM.jpg
The Eric Young plant does not get the greatest flowers, as the petals often have little "teeth" along the edges, but the flowers are huge, and it is a great breeder. The besseae 'Rob's Choice' is still the best besseae I have ever seen, and we use every peace of pollen that it produces. Almost all the Don Wimbers from this cross have been amazing, with large, darker than normal flowers.
Robert
Nynaeve February 13th, 2006, 04:04 PM Very nice! That is a brilliant red on that besseae. I rather like the Eric Young...it has a rugged yet beautiful look. I think it is the stance of the petals that I am attracted to also.
TADD February 13th, 2006, 04:23 PM I wet myself over that Irish Moss.... Off to the wish list for ya... Nice awards and congrats! That besseae parent is awesome!
Bill Zimmerman February 13th, 2006, 04:39 PM The Eric Young plant does not get the greatest flowers, as the petals often have little "teeth" along the edges, but the flowers are huge, and it is a great breeder. The besseae 'Rob's Choice' is still the best besseae I have ever seen, and we use every peace of pollen that it produces. Almost all the Don Wimbers from this cross have been amazing, with large, darker than normal flowers.
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Robert,
I've noticed that the "teeth" show up quite often in Eric Young 4n crosses. Have you noticed this in certain crosses more than others? I have several plants of Magdalene Rose that have the same jagged edges to varying degrees, and a few other crosses show some evidence also. Bessae seems to tame this down a bit. What is your experience?
drorchid February 13th, 2006, 04:55 PM To answer Bill's question, yes I agree. We got some Magdalene Rose's and some Autum Fire's (= Eric Young x Barbara LeAnn) from Chuck, and they were made with the 4N Eric Young (I think it is also the 'Mount Millais' clone), and all had the jagged edges. However none of our Don Wimbers (made with 'Mount Millais) seemed to show this characteristic. We made some 3N Don Wimbers in the past with a yellow 2N besseae and the 'Mount Millais' Eric Young, and most had normal petals too (if I recall there were one or two that had jagged edges), so besseae does seem to be dominant in making the flowers "normal" again. The teeth along the petals is often a characteristic of 4N plants (but our 4N besseae does not have it).
Robert
phragfan February 13th, 2006, 10:01 PM All are very impressive!
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