Here's the second blooming of this plant since fall. I was not impressed with the first blooming, but this one is better. Angela is niveum x fairrieanum.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/paphreek/PaphAngela.jpg

I LIKE Angela!!!

Where did you get it?

The flowers have been getting progressively whiter, more than the picture shows. I bought this one from Orchids by the Ackers. Unfortunately they don't do mail orders. If you've got a niveum in bloom, I've got the fairrieanum pollen. :D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/paphreek/Paphfairrieanum.jpg

Man, my niveum is in low bud. You could cross Fairrieanum onto a dog turd and I would absoluetely love it. I have decided that I am going to collect all the Fairrieanum hybrids that I can. They are my favorite specie of this genera. Thanks for sharing!

Say, I've got a Greyi in high bud. The bud is beginning to turn color and has doubled in size over the last couple of weeks.

What do you think about fairrieanum x Greyii? I wonder if it is a named cross?

Regardless, if you guys remake Angela count me in on a flask, compot, or whatever I can help you with!

Both ideas are good. I'm thinking along the same lines: fairrieanum x S Gratrix. I currently have this one in bloom:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/paphreek/PaphSGratrixCockerSpaniel.jpg

I just noticed that this flower is fading, but I have another bud on the sam plant about half developed.

Slipperhead,
Greyi x fairrieanum is Paph Sirita Magray. There have been two awarded. Do you have a pic of your Greyi?

Tadd,
I'd Like to do a remake, also. Do you have specs or a picture of your niveum from a previous bloom or is this a first bloom seedling?

My Greyi is a first bloom seedling so it is an unknown player. I won't bother if it is isn't worthy. I'll post a photo when it fully opens. Would the fairriaenum pollen be available? I'll share whatever flasks I come up with and I'm sure you all will do the same. What the heck am I going to do with a LOT of flasks of one cross?

I hoped you at least scavenged the pollen from that Gratrix. It has very nice color.

I think we need to keep talking when we have interesting plants coming into bloom! I think we can come up with or remake some nice hybrids.

My niveum is I think an Acker seedling. 'Great White x White Knight' It is in low bud, and a first time seedling. So I will have to see. That would be cool to make an Angela.

Sounds good. I'll hold pollen until your Greyi blooms.

Quote:"I think we need to keep talking when we have interesting plants coming into bloom! I think we can come up with or remake some nice hybrids."

I've been working on an idea that has to do with that very subject. Can I PM you with a list of unfinished thoughts?

ABSOLUTELY!

BTW, I did a search for Paph. Angela. There is a LOT of variation in the results!!! Check it out. The ones pictured are all different and very nice.

My niveum is I think an Acker seedling. 'Great White x White Knight' It is in low bud, and a first time seedling. So I will have to see. That would be cool to make an Angela.

Tadd,
I'll try to hold pollen until yours blooms. If I can't, it looks like I might have another bud coming on my fairrieanum.

I just searched for Paph Sirita Magray and found a photo of one. It appears to have been made with the alba var. of both Greyi and fairriaenum. It is green and white striped.

The standard versions of both parents should put a LOT of color, both stripes and spots, on the children.

Do you have access to photos of the awarded Sirita Magrays?

LOL! Love this forum, you GO guys!!:D

I don't have the AQ's from the 1990's. The first award in 1997, an HCC, was earned by an albanistic flower exhibitted by Curved Air Orchids (Kevin Porter). The second appears to have been made with at least one normal parent because the description mentions burgundy spotting. This flower was awarded an AM in 1999 and was exhibitted by Phelps Farm Orchids from Tampa, Fla.

Can you give me the address of the pic you found?

Here is the address: http://www.rannoie.com/2000autum2.html

As you can see, this one is white/green and quite fairriaenum-like. Similar crosses, like Angela, have some like this and others fairly round.

Thanks for the address. I know what you mean about fairrieanum hybrids. I have a Paph Oto (Winston Churchill x fairrieanum) and it looks almost exactly like Winston Churchill with no fairrieanum influence. While my Estella has quite a bit of fairrieanum influence.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/paphreek/PaphEstella.jpg

I asked my favorite world-class paph hybridizer and grower what he thought of me crossing my first-bloom Greyi to anything. Here is his response:

"NEVER cross to a single growth plant. It will either kill it or slow it
down at that size. Also, the germination is greatly affected by pod parent
plant size. NEVER!"

Based on his experience and advice, maybe I should wait until next the next blooming cycle when my plant has two or three growths before I cross it.

I asked my favorite world-class paph hybridizer and grower what he thought of me crossing my first-bloom Greyi to anything. Here is his response:

"NEVER cross to a single growth plant. It will either kill it or slow it
down at that size. Also, the germination is greatly affected by pod parent
plant size. NEVER!"

Based on his experience and advice, maybe I should wait until next the next blooming cycle when my plant has two or three growths before I cross it.

Good post! I've generally waited until the second or third blooming to use a plant as the pod parent although I've never heard why I should. Tadd's plant is a 'first bloomer', too. Oh, well, if a cross is worth making today, it should be worth making next year!

Still post a picture. Maybe the pollen can be used for another cross.