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Anonymous April 1st, 2005, 05:26 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/TerpsRock/Papharmenciaum24-1-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/TerpsRock/Papharmenciaum2.jpg
How 'bout that for a 1st bloom... :shock:
Paphraguy April 1st, 2005, 05:29 PM Wow amazing! var lindenii, eh? :lol: First bloomer?
Anonymous April 1st, 2005, 05:32 PM Okay, maybe I just made up the name..but sure is fitting huh? :? That's the 1st growth and has 1 small 2nd growth...I'm hoping for a pouch next time! :poke: Pic taken 5:00 today...as you can see, still a little green left on it...just opened...
Paphgirl April 1st, 2005, 05:33 PM Whoops!
:thumbsup: Still pretty...
(edit - good for April 1st, no?)
Al April 1st, 2005, 06:29 PM That is weird. It looks unhappy, but I might be projecting.
If it does it again on the next bloom, then you might have something. But it will probably give you lip the next time it flowers.
I don't know the nomenclature rules that govern the naming of a new variety. I'm sure they are out there someplace on the internet. If you decide to make it the 'Clonal Name' (as opposed to variety) then you should probably be warned that latinized clonal names are frowned upon by the orchid naming police. I want to suggest 'Lindenesc' but Phrag lindenii is not missing a lip: it has a lip that has mutated back into a petal.
http://orchidexchange.com/images/web0235a.jpg
Slipperhead April 1st, 2005, 07:57 PM You should have signed your post "Pouchless in Virginia..."!
What the heck happened to the pouch???
It'll be interesting to bloom it again to see what happens. Say, you don't have that pouch in your back pocket do you? 8)
Anonymous April 1st, 2005, 08:08 PM :confused: Dunno! Sure is freaky huh? Guess we'll have to wait 'til next year to find out...
The SO got it from Norman's when she ordered a micranthum over a yr ago. Guess they couldn't tell the difference... :oops:
Will be very interesting to see... Do we put this in the peloric category?
I'm sticking with my variety name! :Party:
Here's a side by side of both of mine...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/TerpsRock/Papharemeniacums4-2-05.jpg
SteveT April 3rd, 2005, 01:02 AM I think that should be a form, not a variety. A variety implies that there are colonies of these types growing. If that is the case, please ignore. But if this is just one or a few types that have shown up, it would be a form.
Anonymous April 3rd, 2005, 10:18 AM Hmm...sarcasm's tuff in writing I see... Okay then...I'll name it: Paph armeniacum forma #@$&ed up! :shock: I can just name it: Paph. armeniacum "Pouchless"...or we go with Garland's "Pouchless in VA"...I like that one! All I know is this plant ain't right! :therethere: LOL!!!!
paphreek April 3rd, 2005, 10:37 AM Has it been on the Atkins Diet? Is that why it's pouchless?
RickL April 3rd, 2005, 10:44 AM Don't write it off yet Terp. I have a suk that produced perfectly normal flowers for two years, then produced something like that. I don't think its permenantly mutated.
Maybe too much Superthrive :shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted:
Anonymous April 3rd, 2005, 10:47 AM That is one possibility that crossed my mind! I started using the stuff the beginning of the year. But, once stuff's in spike, I stop. Maybe it had already had too much before the bud formed... :?:
RickL April 3rd, 2005, 11:06 AM I really was just joking, but almost anything is posible. I use ST too, and I don't stop during spiking, and I've only had the bogus flower thing once. My armeniacum bloomed just fine this year.
A debate on ST might be fun. Steve T might have some good insight/knowledge of the physiological actions of it.
John M April 3rd, 2005, 02:16 PM How to tell micranthum from armeniacum when not in flower:
Visually;
Paph. armeniacum has a proportionately longer leaf, as compared to its' width than micranthum, which tends to have a slightly more stocky look.
Texture;
Close your eyes. I know this sounds dumb, but sight is where we humans get most of our sensory information from; even though smell is the keenest scence. It is hard to not believe what you are seeing and to most people, micranthum and armeniacum look exactly the same. The leaf length to width thing doesn't always work if you've got plants of different ages, or different varieties. However, with your eyes closed, take hold of a healthy leaf with your thumb on top and gently rub. There's no mistaking the difference. P. armeniacum is smooth and P. micranthum is rough. After having the opportunity to compare the texture of both spiecies, side by side, you will always be able to identify a single plant, whether or not a sample of the other species is available for comparison. Once you become familiar with the slight differences in the way that the leaves feel, you will never be wrong. Like I said, you'll be able to tell them apart with your eyes closed!
Anonymous April 3rd, 2005, 02:30 PM It was obvious by not only the leaves, but the tag said it's an armenicum...they just screwed up the order...and didn't correct it...but that's a whole different issue...
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