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joakim November 3rd, 2005, 01:48 PM This may be slightly off the topic but I hope it is Ok anyway.
I am looking for Magazine about cultivation of hardy orchids in general and Cypripedium in perticular. With hardy I am talking about species that surviwe temperatures below freezing.
Language can be English or even German.
I have not seen much in AOS Orchid mag about this, only a few small but interesting arcicle the last 1.5 year.
I have seen some interesting things is old "die Orchide" in German as well as I happend to find. If they still have these kind of aricles I do not know. It has been Werner Frosch in old ones from 95 and Michael Weinert and Holger Perner in 97-99.
What I do not know is where are people that writes articles sending their articles?
Are there societies with nice magazines/journals (about Cypripedium and other hardy orchids) that is worth joining just for the magazine? Since abroad the social activities will be missed?
It can be magazines that covers more than Cyps and hardy orchids but 1 article per year is maybe too little to have a subscription/mebership. I even found a nice article by Malmgren in Swedish in one garden society that I join for that reason.
Are there any books that You would recomend abut growing Cyps and other hardy Orchids?
I have the Book by Philipp Cribb and I like it but is there more books and maybe even more hands on?
I am sorry if it was a bit off topic but I hope You do not mind.
Hope to hear what kind of reading of magazines and books people do.
Kind Regards
Joakim
Shady Character November 3rd, 2005, 01:56 PM Until you said you already have it I was going to recommend Cribb's book. :? Over the years I've gathered a few magazine articles on hardy/temperate/terrestrial orchids that I just have stuck in a binder. Not all deal with culture in any meaningful way. They showed up in various periodicals that weren't specifically about orchids, but general gardening, etc.
But it's funny you should bring this up. Just this morning while I was looking for something else I came across the title "Terrestrial Orchids: From Seed to Mycotrophic Plant" by H.N. Rasmussen. I know nothing about the book other than that I meant to come here and see if anyone could recommend it.
You are, of course already familiar with the Cypripedium forum and there is at least one other one dealing with terrestrial orchids.
The bottom line is I've learned much more on culture from web sites and email correspondence than from any book, but one has to consider the source. (And the sources I've run into at Slipper Orchid Forum seem to be quite reliable.)
joakim November 5th, 2005, 06:48 PM I have found much interesting both here and at other forums.
I can strongly recommend the postings by Holger Perner at the cypripedium forum for those interested in Chinese Cyps in the wild.
Called What is up in Huanglong Part 1-6
http://www.cypripedium.de/forum/species.html a bith down on the side among asian species.
I am wondering if anyone know of Hardy orchid society HOS and there magazine?
Also I have not heard anything about newer issues of Die Orchidee is there no German memers og DOG here at the forum that can tell if there still is articles about Cypripedium in many/most of the journals by different authors?
Is there no American periodicals about this either?
Have anyone read or looked at books like "The gradner´s Guide to Growing Hardy Perennial Orchids" By Mathis, William or "Growing Hardy Orchids" by Tullock, John that both cover the cultivation of Cyps among others.
I would have hoped for more response in this subject :(
Hopefully there will come more sugestiones :) :)
Kind regards
Joakim
fundulopanchax November 5th, 2005, 11:19 PM The most comprehensive books about Cypripedium culture are the Cribb book (Cribb is updating his book at present) you mentioned and Bill Mathis' book "Hardy Perennial Orchids." I believe that Bill's book is only available from his website - www.wildorchidcompany.com . The Rasmussen book is a compilation of germination techniques - a very valuable resource for many genera but it does not cover general culture. Two interesting books are getting rather old but are still available from the American Orchid Society and the Brandywine Museum: North American Native Terrestrial Orchid Propagation and Production, Conference Proceedings March 1989 (available from Brandywine Museum) and North American Native Terrestrial Orchid Propagation and Production, Conference Proceedings March 1996 (available from American Orchid Society). There are rather few articles about Cypripedium published in international journals - Orchid Digest used to have quite a few, more recently the American Orchid Society publication, currently called Orchids, publishes an article every year or two. Most information shows up on the cypripedium forum, although it has become rather quiet over the past year or so.
Ron Burch
Loripep February 2nd, 2006, 07:34 AM I've recently sent for and received back issues of Orchid Digest for the following articles by John Doherty.
Genus Cypripedium: An Overview
Genus Cypripedium: Cultivation
Genus Cypripedium: Propagation
I enjoyed the article and learned a great deal from them, for instance, he grows his cyps in pots with grass.
I also have an article from an issue of the North American Rock Garden Society which was very interesting. Let me know if you need them.
Lori Peplinskie
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
Loripep February 2nd, 2006, 07:38 AM Also meant to add that I recenlty purchased a book entitled Hardy Orchids but have forgotten the author. Unfortunately I was very disappointed with it. Maybe I need to give it a second read. I'm also awaiting Terrestrial Orchids: From Seed to Mycotropic Plant. Will give you my analysis of the book in a few weeks.
Lori Peplinskie
fundulopanchax February 2nd, 2006, 09:14 PM Hi, Lori,
John Tullock's book about Growing Hardy Orchids has some nice cultural stuff. It does not cover propagation. Rasmussen's book for which you are waiting has an enormous amount of material. You will find that in spite of all the information, there is very little helpful information - not Rasmussen's fault, she is just reporting what is known. There simply has not been a great amount of systematic research done, or at least published. You will enjoy the read, though!
Ron Burch
silence882 February 2nd, 2006, 09:47 PM Although the AOS magazine doesn't have a lot on terrestrials, the March 1994 issues was devoted to hardy orchids. They have a couple nice articles and I would recommend getting a copy if you can find someone with back issues.
--Stephen
joakim February 8th, 2006, 03:24 PM Hi
Nice to get some more information.
I have seen that one of the articles about Cyps in Orchid review is accecble.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/publications/orchidreview/orchid0505/cypripedium.asp
There are also some available material in the other issues that might be of interest.
Lately it was an article in AOS about European terretal orchids not cyps but orphys ond orchis. It was hidden under conservation activitys.
There are also some very nice travel reports on the Cypripedium forum by Holger Prener but not on culture directly.
It is always good to spread where information is.
Kind regards
Joakim
Loripep February 9th, 2006, 03:51 PM Fogot to write that I found a terrestrial orchid bibliography (forgot where I found it) in an excel file format. Only goes to 1988 but lots of articles listed although a bunch are not in english. E-mail me if you would like the electronic file.
Lori Peplinskie
joakim February 12th, 2006, 11:08 AM Dear all
Since so much information is available on the net, it is not always easy to find it.
Does anyone know of a web page that has collected several links to growers, articles, culture instruction and so on from several sources?
To find some of the webpages is not so easy so it would be nice to have a "hub" for just Cyps.
I do not have any skill in making a webpage but would gladly contribute links if anyone think they can do such a thing.
It does not have to be fancy at all just links under a few categories maybe.
If there is anyone already I would be happy if anyone would tell me where that webpage is.
Kind regards
Joakim
fundulopanchax February 12th, 2006, 03:52 PM Hi, Joakim,
The best general Cypripedium resource is the cypripedium forum at http://www.cypripedium.de/forum/ . It has gotten rather quiet in the recent year or so. I suspect that the folks who were so active with it at the beginning now have the information they sought and thus now communicate among themselves directly except to put up particularly interesting new plants.
I am putting together a web site at present that will concentrate on terrestrial temperate orchids that will hopefully gather much information that is currently scattered. The Cypripedium community has been rather good at communicating cultural information compared to growers of other, tropical genera. The North American Native Orchid Society volumes on propagation are particularly helpful as are the articles published by people such as Bill Steele. However, while much more is now known about propagation of specific species, there are no articles in preparation. One must inquire directly of the propagators. Hopefully we will begin to update some of that soon. I hope to have time to organize enough content to justify activating the website by April or so. If you send me your email address as a private message, I will forward to you my Links page for Cypripedium as it sits now. I suspect that you will have all of them already since you are active, but you may have some that I dont - I would be happy to add them.
Best,
Ron Burch
joakim February 23rd, 2006, 04:28 AM Hello
I got some of Svante Malmgrens old articles around 88-93 and if any one is interested I could send a copy.
Since there is not that many speaking Swedish I was also thinking on doing a resumé of the 4 four articles.
They are general about propagation of terrestal hardy orchids but mostly European. Not that much abot Cyps but the techiniques used then is desribed well.
If I do not see people protesting about this I will do a Short rsume and have some of his reference there.
The thing to remember is that the techniques might have been imporoved (it was 18 years ago of the oldes ones) and the names of some of the orchids are changed but I will not change them to the new one.
Much of this is also written on his homepage.
Hope that this will be interesting
Joakim
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