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silence882
September 8th, 2005, 11:35 PM
Hello all, I have yet another literature location question. Does anyone happen to know where I might be able to get ahold of English versions of Karasawa's many articles that are cited as being published in the Bulletin of the Hiroshima Botanical Garden? I can't seem to locate any copies of the journal itself in the US anywhere other than the Selby Gardens. Thanks

--Stephen

Beskriver
September 9th, 2005, 10:57 AM
Most of these are published in Enlifh, for example the Karasawa & Saito Paph classification. A couple of articles are in Japanese with English abstracts. I've had most of them, but I haven't seen them for a long while -- probably at the bottom of some box, or even long gone! They're not so terribly exciting anyway, unless you like to look at chromosome squashes realigned into a row of metacentrics and telocentrics. Basically, it's their data that's of any consequence, and this is easily obtained through secondary sources. You know, how many chromosomes there are in species X; you can determine the number of metas and telos really easily from the base chromosome numbers.

Try interlibrary loan -- that's how I got 'em a long, long time ago! If you have any questions about their data, and what the consequences there are (you know, centric fission), please go ahead and ask and i'll try to answer.

Best, Beskriver

stock
September 9th, 2005, 08:06 PM
I'm in the same boat, I have no idea where those papers are today. I can say one thing about "cytotaxonomy" though. I started in cytogenetics years before chromosome banding and while at M.D. Anderson with T.C. Hsu, published several papers which were the first banding studies in some groups. What we learned as chromosome banding (not in Plants) got better and was coupled with molecular data is that the old cytotaxonomy work based on gross chromosome morphology was worthless and just an exercise in futility. l guess it was all we had at the time but it was horribly misused.

silence882
September 12th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Hrm thanks for the help. Don't worry, I will definitely have questions :D
I'll see if I can track them down through interlibrary loan. The UM library has or can get most everything...

--Stephen