View Full Version : Cypripedium fargesii, lentiginosum or lichiangense?
Mafate December 24th, 2008, 09:04 AM Hello guys,
First of all, I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year! :Party:
Well, here is my question: among those three Cyps, what is the "easiest" to grow and what is the one with the biggest flowers and/or leaves?
Just to make a choice! ;)
Thank you in advance and best regads.
orchidlover December 24th, 2008, 10:25 AM Merry Christmas and a Happy New year to you too!
Paphi December 24th, 2008, 11:11 AM happy happy holiday:Party::Party::Party:
Paphy57 December 24th, 2008, 02:06 PM Merry Christmas to you also! I do not know which one would be the best though.
Paul B December 24th, 2008, 02:18 PM I dont know the answer but like to wish you happy holiday greetings!
Tom Velardi December 25th, 2008, 08:54 AM Hello guys,
First of all, I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year! :Party:
Well, here is my question: among those three Cyps, what is the "easiest" to grow and what is the one with the biggest flowers and/or leaves?
Just to make a choice! ;)
Thank you in advance and best regads.
I've never grown any of them, but my guess based on information I've gleaned from various growers, the order from easiest to hardest would be fargesii, lichiangense/lentiginosum (equal). Of course they all are difficult. Fargesii is less touchy than the other spotted leaf types about winter wetness, hence its "easy" status. All are smallish plants and the flower size should be nearly the same for all.
Good luck growing them. If you get lab propagated stuff you should have a shot, but the wild stuff will not likely make it past a couple seasons.
Mafate December 28th, 2008, 07:41 AM Hello all,
thank you very much Tom for your answer and you all for the greetings! :Party:
Best regards.
Mafate January 8th, 2009, 03:06 PM Hello all again,
could please specify if those three Cyps (fargesii, lentiginosum and lichiangense) are frost resistant during their rest period in winter like non-spotted Cyps and what minimum temperature they can resist without damage then?
In advance thank you very much. :thumbsup:
Best regards.
Primel January 9th, 2009, 09:52 AM I think those Cyps are not so difficult as most people mean. They are rare and so difficult.
It is difficult to grow them when the rhizomes (roots) are damaged, they always have to produce new (white) roots. You always have to remove rotten
leaves immediately! I grow them cool and shaddy under a tree (pinus from the Austrian Alps). They start to grow very late and they are hardy.
Hans
orchidlover January 9th, 2009, 10:04 AM Hi Hans welcome to the slipper orchid forum!
Primel January 9th, 2009, 10:33 AM Thank you for the welcome. I live in Austria and my garden is in the Northern Calceolus Alps in Upper Austria (Salzkammergut, Ebensee). I grow a lot of Cyps and Cypripedium calceolus is widespreaded there in the wild.
Hans
orchidlover January 9th, 2009, 10:36 AM Thank you for the welcome. I live in Austria and my garden is in the Northern Calceolus Alps in Upper Austria (Salzkammergut, Ebensee). I grow a lot of Cyps and Cypripedium calceolus is widespreaded there in the wild.
Hans
That sounds like a beautiful place to live in!
Primel January 9th, 2009, 11:53 AM Here are some pics
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6992/dscf4315yp9.th.jpg (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf4315yp9.jpg)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4483/dscf3660fe6.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf3660fe6.jpg)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5519/dscf6007hu0.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf6007hu0.jpg)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7172/dscf5859fj0.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf5859fj0.jpg)
Hans
Paphi January 9th, 2009, 12:29 PM very nice pretty:heart::heart::heart:ty
Paul B January 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM Wow really neat looking are those cyp blooms? oh and welcome!
orchidlover January 9th, 2009, 02:03 PM They are all such beauties thank you for sharing them with us!
dragonfly22 January 9th, 2009, 02:07 PM They all look great and very nice pictures!
Tom S January 9th, 2009, 04:08 PM Beautiful plants and pictures!
Thanks for sharing!
Tom Velardi January 9th, 2009, 11:09 PM Very lovely Hans! How long have you had them established?
In time as more plants are micropropagated these spotted leaf species will become easier to grow. Are you trying to grow them from seed as well?
Slipperguy January 10th, 2009, 12:36 AM Wow...awesome plants:cool:
Primel January 10th, 2009, 01:46 AM These Cyps have strong rhizomes and strong / long roots. If you buy such a Cyp you will often get plants with cutten or demaged roots. As I have seen then you have to wait so 2-3 years and they will flower again. In the first year the plant will bring you flowers but then most roots will die.
If you keep them too dry they will die!! So avoid soft leaves!! Remove rooten leaves or parts of rotten leaves and then use a fungi there!!
My garden is very wet, we have so 2000mm rain.
The last year my friend has taken seeds and we try to grow them from seed. This is much easier!
Hans
Paphraguy January 10th, 2009, 12:35 PM Beautiful Cyps, Hans and welcome to the Slipper Orchid Forum!
Paphy57 January 10th, 2009, 08:50 PM Welcome, Johannes! :welcome:
Your Cyps look absolutely wonderful!
Mafate January 14th, 2009, 12:15 PM Hello Hans,
thank you for your answer and welcome to the forum! Your plants look absolutely fantastic! I think that I will have some questions for you in the coming months because I already received one lichiangense (its bud rotted but I used a fungicide and keep my fingers crossed to save it) and will receive another one in the next days! :D
What other species do you grow? I see that your favourite Cyp is calceolus. Do you also have its green form?
Best regards.
Primel January 15th, 2009, 05:51 AM Hallo Mafate,
the Cypripedium calceolus which grow near my house are very different. That is very unusually. They are very tall (nearly 1m) or very small, some have pure yellow shoes or with green (depends on the weather!). Petals are very different (black, brown, reddish,...). If it is interesting for you I could post some pics. (Where should I post them?)
I grow the following Cyps and some hybrids, too (I think these are not all):
calceolus, reginae, guttatum, different macranthos, tibeticum, mandchuricum, different flavum, pubescens, parviflorum, different x ventricosum, debile, wardii, palangshanense, franchetii, froschii, kentuckiense, Rascal, reginae x margaritaceum, micranthum, henryi, japonicum, formosanum, bardolphianum, plectrochilon, lichiangense, fasciolatum, Maria Handlbauer, reginae x acaule, different reginae x flavum,...
Best wishes
Hans
Tom Velardi January 15th, 2009, 07:02 AM If it is interesting for you I could post some pics. (Where should I post them?)
Hans, please do post pics of whatever you have! The appropriate place is over on the Cypripedium Photo Gallery. We all look forward to see any of your plants.
Thanks,
Tom
orchidlover January 15th, 2009, 11:21 AM Hans you have a wonderful collection of Cyp plants and I would love to see pictures of them. Please post more pictures of your Cyps thank you!
Mafate January 17th, 2009, 07:09 PM Hello Hans, thank you for your answer. Yes, please, post some pics! :cool:
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