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Paphraguy
July 29th, 2005, 09:29 AM
The article is very brief, here is the link: http://www.vnanet.vn/NewsA.asp?LANGUAGE_ID=2&CATEGORY_ID=32&NEWS_ID=159375

Does anyone have more details/info? Thanks!

couscous74
July 29th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Try this one:
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/service/printversion?article_id=680988

Paphraguy
July 29th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Thanks Marcus! The flower in the photo looks like a Phrag to me.

Olaf
July 29th, 2005, 09:46 AM
I had read this article also and wrote directly to Leonid Averyanow. Normally he answered very fast, but now I am waiting for.
The picture iin the other article would be very interesting for a new species of the genus but looked like a Phragmipedium for the first view.

Best greetings

Olaf

nyorchids
July 29th, 2005, 10:07 AM
it does look like a phrag are you sure it is the correct pic?

couscous74
July 29th, 2005, 10:31 AM
I thought it looked phragy too. What about the lan hai name. Anyone know what that's about?

Shady Character
July 29th, 2005, 10:59 AM
That image is a Phrag. The first story I read about this a few days ago made it sound like it was just the re-discovery of three species either in an area where they weren't previously found or species that had been believed to be wiped out. I know as people with a special interest we're looking for more information, but what crappy journalism. :?

RickL
July 29th, 2005, 11:31 AM
The pic looks like a regular besseae. It also has a clip and stake for the spike, so it was probably just a slipper pic from a show or somebodies greenhouse.

Mahon
July 29th, 2005, 12:16 PM
There may be 3 kinds of Paphiopedilum found, but the picture is not one of those for sure, unless someone re-discovered Phragmipedium Andean Fire.....

I think the photo is to give you an idea as to what the slipper orchids look like, and not the actual one. I guess we will have to wait for a description and pics soon.....

ttyal,
-PM

Jon in SW Ohio
July 29th, 2005, 04:34 PM
That pic is definitely Andean Fire or Mem. Dick Clements. One of them could be tranlienianum, as I think a synonym for it is caobangense, which would mean it came from Cao Bang like the one they mention.
Since journalists talking about "new orchids" are usually a ways behind...I would guess the tree new ones are: Paph. barbigerum v. lockianum, Paph. tranlienianum, and possibly Paph. vietnamense.

TADD
July 29th, 2005, 05:41 PM
Good looking! Looks like a bess to me!

Paphiopere
July 29th, 2005, 07:49 PM
All these informations do not contribute anything until itself be not described correctly. Someone knows another Phragmipedium in Asia? ???? Him does not he seem rare? ??? He has reason Rickl, that that photo is of a plant cultivated.

Olaf
July 29th, 2005, 08:34 PM
Dear Pere,
I think it is only an article, which includes no clear informations and was then illustrate with a stupid picture.
It is known that in the time of the french colonies some orchids were brought from other regions to Vietnam as gardenplants. Some of them shall be also brought to the nature. But this picture shows so clear a besseaehybrid, and Phrag. besseae was found so much later.
Let us wait for serious information perhaps in an serious orchidjournal.

Best greetings

Olaf

Mahon
July 30th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Olaf,

No word from Leonid yet? We will see what happens, perhaps it may be incorrect information, or could be valid. Definitlely, I agree, Phrag. Andean Fire is not going to be part of the description, as like most things, time will tell.....

Olaf, also, I will send you pics of that Paph. delenatii when they are developed. I am sending you an e-mail, so look in your inbox on your regular e-mail...... I need a little help, as Paph. descriptions are a little unfamiliar for me.....

ttyl,
-PM

Olaf
August 2nd, 2005, 01:00 PM
Nothing new from Leonid, perhaps he is just now in Vietnam or in another part of the world

Olaf

Mahon
August 2nd, 2005, 02:20 PM
Perhaps Leonid might be finding some more Paphiopedilums (or in the assumed case, Phragmipediums) over in Asia.....

I wonder if a colony of Phramipedium Sorcer's Apprentice will show up?

Now seriously, I wonder what type Paphs. they are, if Leonid's story is valid..... I can only hope there has not been another false story of new species (if anyone saw, 2 species from Yunan, China, turned out to be a P. micranthum and a P. malipoense type plant....)....

keep us al updated,
-PM