View Full Version : Someone may I help !!! Cause I don´t with my malipo


paphiogrower
July 15th, 2005, 04:39 PM
hello My malipoense was in but since january, so the flower don´t open today flower is losing the color and burned ! Anybody knows What is happen !!
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Paphraguy
July 15th, 2005, 05:02 PM
I don't know the answer but I would guess environmental change caused it to blast, maybe? I had one last year but unfortunately I inadvertently broke the spike. :(

Paphgirl
July 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM
I had a sibling to Pete's and mine opened halfway like that and then got brown and died. Never fully opened. Bummer. I think for me it was culture change.

Jon in SW Ohio
July 15th, 2005, 06:25 PM
I think this is very common for the species. I have one that sends up spikes all the time during the year, but only those sent up in spring actually make it to an open flower. I have played around with it's culture, but have yet to make a difference to its schedule.

Jon

Paphgirl
July 15th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Mine had arrived in spike in early autumn and died mid winter. So....

TADD
July 15th, 2005, 09:24 PM
I just lost a tigrinum bud.....Doh that wasn't me PG :poke: I did just lose a armeniacum hybrid bud it sat on top of its spike four quite a few weeks, and just recently turned brown and fell off. I was dissapointed. Did it get maybe a little too hot? Sad to see sorry! Better luck next time!

Paphgirl
July 15th, 2005, 09:35 PM
I just lost a tigrinum bud.....Doh that wasn't me PG :poke: I did just lose a armeniacum hybrid bud it sat on top of its spike four quite a few weeks, and just recently turned brown and fell off. I was dissapointed. Did it get maybe a little too hot? Sad to see sorry! Better luck next time!

Are you messin' w/ me, Tadd??
Hmph! :mad:
Still, I guess we all go through this...dammit!

TADD
July 15th, 2005, 09:38 PM
Aaahhh C'mon it's Friday, and I battled huge infestations of SCALE today all day! Amazingly large colonies of scale (soft and hard) large packs of roving mealies in one of the corners of the Greenhouse where the Catts are. I breathed in alot of poisonous fumes and mist all day! I pick becuase I care :)

Paphgirl
July 15th, 2005, 10:03 PM
Aaahhh C'mon it's Friday, and I battled huge infestations of SCALE today all day! Amazingly large colonies of scale (soft and hard) large packs of roving mealies in one of the corners of the Greenhouse where the Catts are. I breathed in alot of poisonous fumes and mist all day! I pick becuase I care :)

And you are ridiculing me because my over-particular, fussy tigrinum blasted? Pfft! Hell, now I am thinking it's all YOUR fault!

Guilt by association, perhaps??? :ohmy:

TADD
July 15th, 2005, 10:11 PM
It was my fault! I snuck into your grow space and kept poking it! :poke: At least you have a tigrinum plant, all I can do is live vicariously through yours! and photos of them on the internet. :)

Paphgirl
July 15th, 2005, 10:17 PM
...all I can do is live vicariously through yours! and photos of them on the internet. :)

You are in SO much trouble!
I'm gonna get you! You coveter you!!!!!


:lol:

very sad....rubbing it in isn't exactly sugar you know....

TADD
July 15th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Maybe Sweet-n-low? Splenda? Equal?

Paphgirl
July 15th, 2005, 10:22 PM
you are mean! you blue beast you!!! :poke:

TADD
July 15th, 2005, 10:27 PM
Heather you are a nice person because your good enough, and gosh darn'it people like you.

dustyatticstuff
July 15th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Heather you are a nice person because your good enough, and gosh darn'it people like you.

No Tadd, She's evil :evil: , and wants to put me in a bed full of mealie bugs if I were to visit!!! :help:

Seriously, Paphiogrower, it seems like what happened to you is normal. To me it looked like the stem was not bringing enough water to the flower. Like it was blocked. But I have no experience with this type of Paph. :( :( Sorry.

Your plant looks very healthy. Just take care of it and it will bloom again.

Paphgirl
July 16th, 2005, 06:17 AM
oops, this wasn't our thread? Sorry for the derailment! :unsure:

couscous74
July 16th, 2005, 07:00 AM
I just lost a tigrinum bud.....Doh that wasn't me PG :poke: I did just lose a armeniacum hybrid bud it sat on top of its spike four quite a few weeks, and just recently turned brown and fell off. I was dissapointed. Did it get maybe a little too hot? Sad to see sorry! Better luck next time!
I might give Heather a run for the title of Master Blaster. I lost the second bud of my fake primulinum last week, and lost the open flower yesterday morning. :(

Sorry about your sad flower paphio. Best of luck with the next one.

TADD
July 16th, 2005, 07:57 AM
I really do hate when you blast them. I have blasted a few but have been quiet about it! Doh the secrets out!

Greenpaph
July 16th, 2005, 08:36 AM
I bought one a few months ago in bud. The same thing happened to mine. It must be the culture change.

thanks

RickL
July 16th, 2005, 12:02 PM
I'm kinda with Jon on off season blooming, and increased odds with blasting, but moving plants during blooming is also a good stress to shut down a bloom.

The only environmental check I could offer is raise the humidity and airflow if the blooming seems to stall. But once you see the browning the only thing you can do is pull the pollen for future breeding.

Park Bear
July 18th, 2005, 08:31 AM
Is there any merit to just cutting the spike during off-season blooming? Will this help the plant save energy?

RickL
July 18th, 2005, 12:01 PM
Since you only get I shot at flowering per growth (normally), you might as well ride it out and see what you get.

It might save some energy for the next growth, but I'm usually optamistic (and greedy) for flowers.

WANT FLOWERS NOW!!!!

Paphraguy
July 18th, 2005, 12:23 PM
Is there any merit to just cutting the spike during off-season blooming? Will this help the plant save energy?

Personally, I never do, I just enjoy the flowers and plants flower during "off season" all the time in nature and nobody cuts them and they are doing just fine on their own. :D

Park Bear
July 18th, 2005, 01:47 PM
thanks guys, I don't think I could cut one off anyway

Littlefrog
July 18th, 2005, 02:18 PM
Is there any merit to just cutting the spike during off-season blooming? Will this help the plant save energy?

Yes. And Yes. Really, yes. If you want optimal plant growth, don't let the plants bloom. That is a standard rule in floriculture. For example, the big phal 'mills' in the orient all do this, playing tricks with temperature to keep the plants from blooming until they are big enough (and the market is ready). They get to size quicker, and the crop is more uniform. I know a few paph growers who routinely pinch off the first buds, knowing that the second bloom is almost always better and that the plants will get to that second bloom faster without flowering the first time. The best grower I know told me once that she cuts off innumerable spikes on plants that she doesn't think are happy enough to bloom, and especially the plants she is grooming for cultural awards (which she gets in obscene quantity).

Of course it is hard to cut a spike... I have trouble too. But, this year I despiked most of my phals after June 1 (should have been mother's day), and I really see a difference. I did the same for all my maudiae type paphs, and see a remarkable improvement in growth. Of course I sell plants (or at least I try to), and there is no market in the summer. So it really doesn't hurt me too much to cut spikes, at least financially.

The best advice I ever got from that same very good grower was that if I absolutely had to see what a flower was going to look like, to let it bloom and leave it be for a week or two, at most. Then cut it, even if it would otherwise last for months. Even on subsequent bloomings on very large plants, cut the spikes after you have enjoyed them for some reasonable period of time, rather than trying to keep them as long as possible. I confess I don't always do that, though. I don't have the time, often, even if I had the inclination.

Paphgirl
July 18th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Being so new, and having seen not all of the plants I have in person at shows or what not, I'd have a terrible time doing this, but I do understand the merit. Maybe someday...