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RickL
March 11th, 2005, 07:43 PM
I just got notification that the warcsewiczianum seed I sent to Troy has germinated. I didn't pollinate this flower, the pollinia were intact on the flower when the corolla fell off (in fact I saved them in the fridge for a while), and I couldn't see a speck of anything on the stigma when I inspected the dropped flower. On Troy's site I see that "spontaneous" pollinations happen, but does anyone out there have some ideas about the mechanisms other than random acts of stray insects? :shock:

Paphraguy
March 11th, 2005, 07:55 PM
I just got notification that the warcsewiczianum seed I sent to Troy has germinated. I didn't pollinate this flower, the pollinia were intact on the flower when the corolla fell off (in fact I saved them in the fridge for a while), and I couldn't see a speck of anything on the stigma when I inspected the dropped flower. On Troy's site I see that "spontaneous" pollinations happen, but does anyone out there have some ideas about the mechanisms other than random acts of stray insects? :shock:

It may have self pollinated itself. My lindenii is a natural self pollinator.

RickL
March 11th, 2005, 08:14 PM
Do you think there is some type of internal travel of pollen, or do you think germ (seed) tissue just starts to divide. Can this result in a wierd ploidy? Exstaminodum is also supposed to be a common "spontaneous" pollinator. It doesn't even have a staminode.

Eric Muehlbauer
March 12th, 2005, 10:34 PM
I have found czerwiakowianum to be self fertile also...Take care, Eric

Ray
March 19th, 2005, 10:25 AM
Hey! Nobody seems to have caught the fact that Rick stated the pollinia were intact.

If that's the case, how did the germination happen?

Kyle
March 19th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Ray, I think you meant to type 'Pollenation' not 'Germination'

Kyle

Paphgirl
March 19th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Oops, yeah, I did miss that! How odd! :confused:
I don't know enough to have any idea why that would happen.

Paphraguy
March 19th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Oops, yeah, I did miss that! How odd! :confused:
I don't know enough to have any idea why that would happen.

Me neither! :lol:

RickL
March 19th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Ya Crazy. But there are a small number of seedlings growing. I know of (and work with) animals that are parthenogenic. And I would expect plants in general to be even more amenable than the stray animal species. In most animal cases it takes an odd ploidy, and there is some kind of spontaneous division of ova. But I was curious if anyone new the mechansim in phrags.

SteveT
March 26th, 2005, 02:30 AM
We have not yet begun to uncover the secrets of apomixis.

RickL
March 26th, 2005, 10:10 AM
Steve
What is apomixis?