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papuanum
July 9th, 2005, 03:40 AM
on sale at the Bloemenveiling in Aalsmeer (The Netherlands) this past week, in flower, seed grown, very good quality flowers for... 4€ each ! ( roughly 5.5-6$)
Come with a phytosanitary certificate from Vietnam ( 1999) mentioning 'ARtificially propagated flasks of Paphiopedilum vietnamense).

Gideon
July 9th, 2005, 10:52 AM
Very interesting, that is cheaper than our P insignes. Was this the price for the plant in flower or for the flowers only?

If it was for the plant I hope you bought some.

papuanum
July 9th, 2005, 10:53 AM
For a whole 1 growth + 1 new one plant in flower. Nope, because it is so common and cheap here that everyone already has some. There are some far more selected ones available, some like a perfect delenatii but dark crimson red nearly all over. Not very expensive too.

Gideon
July 9th, 2005, 11:11 AM
I can only hope to find one here...let alone at 4€. Let's just hope that Kovachii follows the same price trend and becomes available to the masses at an affordable price soon.

...some like a perfect delenatii but dark crimson red nearly all over.

That sounds interesting, do you have any photos?

likespaphs
July 9th, 2005, 11:35 AM
soon after, hopefully, $10 roths and sanderianums...

papuanum
July 9th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Some EUR40/US50 roths have been seen a few months ago.

SteveT
July 9th, 2005, 03:22 PM
Some EUR40/US50 roths have been seen a few months ago.

Weren't these diseased?

TADD
July 9th, 2005, 04:28 PM
What a great price on a vietnamense!

papuanum
July 10th, 2005, 03:22 AM
Some EUR40/US50 roths have been seen a few months ago.

Weren't these diseased?

No, in perfect conditions, with a flower stem.

It is not that of a great price for vietnamense, there are several thousands around. Normal vietnamense has very weak flowers without any substance, and poor colors, only a few plants have very good substance and very good color.

malipoense
July 11th, 2005, 05:59 AM
according to what I know of the European market, these will probably end up at a much higher price in orchid shops in Europe .... :cry: Prices can be quite outrageous there, even for non-selected plants ....

papuanum
July 11th, 2005, 06:16 AM
according to what I know of the European market, these will probably end up at a much higher price in orchid shops in Europe .... :cry: Prices can be quite outrageous there, even for non-selected plants ....


Depends where you live and which orchid shop you choose. vietnamense in bud in a dutch retail orchidshop sold for EUR 12 this week-end... the same ones are sold 35€ in Italy by another shop, and 90€ in France, but in both of the latter countries you can get it for 18€. Paphs are cheap in Europe, look at all those charlesworthii albums in bud for 40€... They are all around.

ECO ORQUIDEAS - Brazil
July 14th, 2005, 01:57 PM
Papuanum Do you have any good Dutch seller that can export? For those prices I am interested in some.[/quote]

avery
July 20th, 2005, 07:31 PM
"like a perfect delenatii but dark crimson red nearly all over" ?? and " There are thousands of them" ?? I suspect the one you bought could be a Ho Chi Manh ...

papuanum
July 21st, 2005, 02:05 AM
"like a perfect delenatii but dark crimson red nearly all over" ?? and " There are thousands of them" ?? I suspect the one you bought could be a Ho Chi Manh ...

I did not buy one, but I said that a good vietnamense should have delenatii shape and crimson red. There are not thousands of them, there are thousands of delenatii, and quite a few good ones, from a german cross, some of these have been sold to Taiwan. Now they are of no interest because the market has been filled, and the bulk is sold as pot-plant.

Paphiopere
July 25th, 2005, 07:13 PM
I aim at me the waiting list for the Phrag. kovachii to 4€