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cutterpup
March 6th, 2008, 09:38 PM
I have enjoyed reading the back posts on clonal names, breeders names etc and it has caused me to wonder. Is there a central organization in each country, such as the AOS in America, that registers the names that breeders use? I don't mean the names given to egistered hybrids or clonal names, but the names used by breeders to let the world know that say Phrag. oxoxox "Tom's fancy pants" has been bred by Tom.
In the earlier years of my marriage (and even before that) I raisd puebred cats. My cattery (breeder) name was registered with the CFA (cat's AOS)and that name was used as a prefix for every cat that I bred. So folks seeing Rakshatown Tiger Eye knew that he had been bred by Rakshatown cattery. a further benfit was that no on else could use the Rakshatown name in rgistering a CFA cat.
Is there a way short of searching an entire database of clonal names to see if a particular breeder's name has been used?
thanks in advance
Judy (and the cutterpup)

Roy
March 6th, 2008, 11:16 PM
NO, not in each country, The only organisation that registers Orchids is the Royal Horticultural Society in England. With various people and name changes, it has been done in England since the late 1800's. For any other country or organisation to do it would a greater stuff up that what the system already is, unless their computors were linked directly to the ones at the RHS. Even then, crosses with new species being used and or new intergeneric crosses plus the new names given to some orchid genera, all new plants would have to be cross referrence against the standing names used by the RHS Registrar. This would add a greater time factor to any registration.

cutterpup
March 7th, 2008, 06:50 AM
Soo, my answer is no. :rolleyes: The only thing I can hope for is to use the "breeder" name I have chosen and then add a clonal name for each plant I put up for judging and hope that between the two of them I've not completly copied someone else's. I'm not looking to register hybrids, so that is a worry i don't have. (at least not yet:thumbsup:)
thanks

Roy
March 7th, 2008, 08:29 AM
Just to clarify things on re-reading orig' post, any Registered cross, say Paph Sheerline.
That was registered with the RHS by Ratcliffes ( Ratcliffe Orchids ). Their name Ratcliffes appears on the registration data. You can't just put your own name on a plant UNLESS its a clonal name. You must use the correct Registered name OR register the crossing with the RHS. If you don't, when the judging panel checks the parentage of the plant you have submitted and find it doesn't exist many questions will be asked and if an award has been given it will be voided until the correct name ( including the registration of the cross ) is completed.

Ron-NY
March 7th, 2008, 09:01 AM
Judy, clonal names are not registered anywhere and there is no problem with a clonal name being repeated, although on the same species or cross it is not wise. Piping Rock Orchids usually uses Piping Rock, Haley, Suzanne or Haley Suzanne as clonal names but that does not mean someone else can't use the name 'Suzanne' as a clonal name.

rdlsreno
March 17th, 2008, 01:07 AM
Judy, clonal names are not registered anywhere and there is no problem with a clonal name being repeated, although on the same species or cross it is not wise. Piping Rock Orchids usually uses Piping Rock, Haley, Suzanne or Haley Suzanne as clonal names but that does not mean someone else can't use the name 'Suzanne' as a clonal name.

I agree!!!:iagree:


Ramon:D

PaphGuy
April 13th, 2008, 11:57 AM
You can repeat the clonal name, however, there are certain clonal names that people will associate with certain growers. If I were you, I would not repeat a well known clonal name, for example Jamboree. This clonal name is associated with Paphanatics. If you repeat a clonal name, people may think that you try to defraud somebody.