View Full Version : Hard to find/ rare paph on EBAY!


TADD
July 6th, 2005, 08:27 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42218&item=3984012875&rd=1

Check it out, it is so rare, that only one person has bid on it and the price is still $9.99. I wonder what kind of bidding/ sniping will go on to get this "shiny leaf orchid".

What do these people think? Does this really make people interested in orchids. Are they really rare? Why did I give mine to my mother-in-law if it is hard to find. I better get it back soon. :poke: :lol:

Littlefrog
July 6th, 2005, 08:33 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42218&item=3984012875&rd=1

Check it out, it is so rare, that only one person has bid on it and the price is still $9.99. I wonder what kind of bidding/ sniping will go on to get this "shiny leaf orchid".

What do these people think? Does this really make people interested in orchids. Are they really rare? Why did I give mine to my mother-in-law if it is hard to find. I better get it back soon. :poke: :lol:

No, it is the much rarer 'shiney leaf orchid'...

I stay away from Ebay largely because everything you see for sale is 'rare', 'one of a kind', shouting at me in all caps, or just plain wrong...

Paphgirl
July 6th, 2005, 08:37 AM
SO, where exactly are the shiny leaves? I see no shiny leaves there!

couscous74
July 6th, 2005, 08:38 AM
I guess glaucophyllum might be rare to the home depot orchid shoppers..?

Littlefrog
July 6th, 2005, 08:49 AM
I guess glaucophyllum might be rare to the home depot orchid shoppers..?

I don't know that glaucophyllum is common... Rare is a bit of an overstatement, but I'd wager that a large percentage of the paph specialists (and people on this list) don't grow it.

A nice species. I prefer moquettianum, or a nice alba primulinum, but glaucophyllum is ok. Probably a pretty good deal for 10 dollars. Just overhyped, like everything else on ebay.

Shady Character
July 6th, 2005, 09:37 AM
First, it's "Shiny" not "Shiney" :roll:

Second, you can be darn sure if I sell any orchids on Ebay I'll play up everything I can. It's about making money. Selling plants on forums I know better than to go blowing smoke up anyone's , um, aircone pot. 8)

TADD
July 6th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Doh "shiny" I am a Social Studies teacher :poke:

Shady Character
July 6th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Well, the auction description says "shiney." I suspect the seller looked up the common name (who uses common names for Paphs?!?) on Jay Pfahl's site where it is mis-spelled.

I'm not evil. But spelling is important to me. :?

dustyatticstuff
July 6th, 2005, 11:41 AM
I don't have it, but I do have a moquettianum seedling. I haven't seen this seller sell paphs before, but with 600+ feedbacks, they obviously have been on ebay for a while.

Still $9.99 is not bad for a plant in bloom, even if the listing is exaggerated.

Ernie
July 6th, 2005, 02:05 PM
But did you see the condition of the plant...

Jon in SW Ohio
July 6th, 2005, 03:51 PM
I've got one, and the leaves don't get shiny, they get cloudy...hence glaucus. I must admit, my moquettianum does steal its thunder. The only cochlopetalum I don't have is victoria-mariae, and if Braem's right, victoria-reginae...so I would almost call these "rare".

Jon

RickL
July 6th, 2005, 05:13 PM
According to Jerry Fisher moquetianum is getting rare in the wild. But it seems to be easier to find in the trade than glaucophylum.

I've been seeing a fair number of victor reginae at shows (also called chamberlanianum (spelling???)).

I hardly ever see victor maria at shows or on price lists, I think they'd end up as "rare in collections".

Paphgirl
July 6th, 2005, 05:21 PM
According to Jerry Fisher moquetianum is getting rare in the wild. But it seems to be easier to find in the trade than glaucophylum.

I've been seeing a fair number of victor reginae at shows (also called chamberlanianum (spelling???)).

I hardly ever see victor maria at shows or on price lists, I think they'd end up as "rare in collections".

I only know of one vendor each who has victoria reginae and victoria mariae, and the victoria reginae person sold out back around the time I bought one from him! :) I should treat mine with a bit less neglect, frankly. :roll:

RickL
July 6th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Victor maria is also kind of an oddball for that subgen, since it is found on lava cliffs rather than limestone. So it does better under somewhat acidic conditions.

I got a kalinae seedling from FV, its growing like a weed.

TADD
July 6th, 2005, 06:29 PM
I have a glauco that has cloudy leaves. I really like it, it will hopefully bud up soon. I agree with Shady's sentiment of talking up a sale, However I hate seeing all of these "rare" plants all the time.

Slipperhead
July 7th, 2005, 09:13 AM
The seller did not report this plant as "rare", only "hard to find".

You've got a photo of the bloom and a photo of the plant in spike and an attractive opening bid for a species paph in spike. The flower is nice. The shipping at $8 is fairly standard and would be what I would charge.

The plant seems to be well-represented and described. It does look a bit beat up but at that price, in bud, I could repot it in s/h, enjoy the 3+ month bloom and live with it.

The seller admits he is not a commercial grower. By his other auctions, he seems to deal mostly in coins.

What else could you possibly be looking for in this auction?

Eric Muehlbauer
July 7th, 2005, 10:30 PM
I'va actually found that glaucophyllum is pretty easily obtained, cheaply from many growers...my current one came from ebay, at a reasonable price that I forget...its a pretty reasonably priced plant most of the time. I find it as least as common as moquettianum, and easier to grow and bloom...but I have also found that many "moquettianums" bloom out to be glaucophyllum. Take care, Eric....my bellatulum album just turned brown...just as it was starting to open...oh well........

dustyatticstuff
July 8th, 2005, 10:27 AM
It is up to $20.58 with 9+ hours to go.

Oh yes, BTW, there is an alba phil in bloom on ebay starting at $125. But to me, it does not look like a phil, as the petals are shorter and not as twisted, as I would imagine. Perhaps someone with a better eye and more familiar with this species could take a look at it?? Just curious.

Thanks!

Littlefrog
July 8th, 2005, 10:46 AM
I'va actually found that glaucophyllum is pretty easily obtained, cheaply from many growers...my current one came from ebay, at a reasonable price that I forget...its a pretty reasonably priced plant most of the time. I find it as least as common as moquettianum, and easier to grow and bloom...but I have also found that many "moquettianums" bloom out to be glaucophyllum. Take care, Eric....my bellatulum album just turned brown...just as it was starting to open...oh well........

A lot of people consider glaucophyllum and moquettianum to be synonymous. So I'm not surprised... They may be synonymous. I used to think so too, but after having bloomed out several of each, I think that I'll be calling the gigantic ones moquettianum for now, and reserve glaucophyllum for the little ones. I hate making a distinction based on size, but it does seem to work.

Rob

Jon in SW Ohio
July 8th, 2005, 11:28 AM
You can get a blooming alba phil from orchid inn for less than $100.

Jon

Littlefrog
July 8th, 2005, 11:36 AM
You can get a blooming alba phil from orchid inn for less than $100.

Jon

I have one that I'd part with for less than that... *grin*. It isn't all that good, actually.

Rob

Paphgirl
July 8th, 2005, 11:37 AM
I have one that I'd part with for less than that... *grin*. It isn't all that good, actually.

Rob

Way to sell, Rob! :wink:

Littlefrog
July 8th, 2005, 11:41 AM
I have one that I'd part with for less than that... *grin*. It isn't all that good, actually.

Rob

Way to sell, Rob! :wink:

Well, if it was good I wouldn't sell it, would I? *grin* Besides, I'm working on the fine art of the soft sell. When I fish, I've already mastered the fine art of the 'long line release'. Pick what you are good at and do it well!

Rob

Paphgirl
July 8th, 2005, 12:32 PM
Perhaps someone with a better eye and more familiar with this species could take a look at it?? Just curious.

Thanks!

Ok, I got bored and checked it out. First off, that vendor makes me nuts! Everything is "rare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (with like a thousand of those damn exclamation points) :mad: and her photos are CRAP. Just based on that I'd never buy from her. If you can't take a decent photo, well, I just don't trust her, but that's me, rant over.

Anyway....
I have one of those. Pete has one too. I know where you can get one also, Susan, and it won't cost you nearly that. So, I would tend to disagree with her "extremely rare" comment, though surely, they're not a dime a dozen either.
She claims it is a roebellinii var. aureum 'Greenlace' JC/AOS. I don't know though, mine is really different looking, and if I am making it out correctly, it looks in the photo as though there is red spotting at the base of the plant, such as you would see on some of the parvi crosses. Not a lot of it, but still. Don't know why that might be on an aureum plant (I'm not even going to attempt the anthrocyanin/carotonoid issue that's been running rampant on OGD this week - though I've found it very interesting.)

Anyway, here's a few pics of my 'Greenlace' for comparison. Grows like a weed for me and I'm hoping for a spike any time now. :-dance:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/ahmcd33/5f7a403f.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/ahmcd33/35ef68aa.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/ahmcd33/ba060264.jpg
Scuse the lighting on that last one, dark winter evening, not really that color!

And here's a link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1510&item=3984545681&rd=1

Curious to see what other's have to say....

dustyatticstuff
July 8th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Heather, I was not going to buy it! I was just curious as it did not look like a phil to me. That is why I asked people with a better eye to check it out.

BTW, the Fedex truck just pulled into my driveway no less than 15 minutes ago and I unpacked the phil I got from Norman's in bloom for half the price. (Thanks for the recommendation, you guys.) I paid less than half for what the ebay plant was listed for and the new phil has 5 growths and 3 blooms. (A 4'th flower fell off in transit :( )

I don't think I got the same cross as you & Pete have, but I like it. This one is Paph. phillippinese var album ('Jeanie'x Immaculate Album' S/CSA). However, I always thought that "album" meant light green/white, and this one is yellow & burgundy. Very dainty blooms with small pouches and thin petals measuring about 5" long. I'll take some photos of it later.

Paphgirl
July 8th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Oh yeah, I figured that, it was a curiousity factor thing, but just in case you DID end up wanting one....:twisted:

I think rather than a good eye, what we really could use is a decent photo!

Glad you are happy w/ the phil. That's strange about the Album in the name (yes, Alba/Album generally denotes a white flower.)

dustyatticstuff
July 8th, 2005, 04:23 PM
Your's is a happy, healthy plant, Heather! :clap2:

dustyatticstuff
July 8th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Oh yes, the glaucophyllum sold for $35.09.