mattbrown
March 8th, 2005, 12:37 PM
labled as:
Phrag (Mt. Fallu 4N x Grande 4N)
http://www.orchids.com/_img/content/catalogImg/NF901_2.jpg
i believe it to be:
Phrag. Bel Croute
(Sorcerer''s Apprentice 4N x caudtum var. warscewiczianum)
http://orchids.com/_img/content/catalogImg/NF989_2.jpg
any input?
my orchid here
http://mattsorchidcollection.com/images/DSC00063.jpg
>first 2 photos taken from orchids.com<
Paphraguy
March 8th, 2005, 12:43 PM
labled as:
Phrag (Mt. Fallu 4N x Grande 4N)
i believe it to be:
Phrag. Bel Croute
(Sorcerer''s Apprentice 4N x caudtum var. warscewiczianum)
any input?
http://mattsorchidcollection.com/unknownphrag.html
It does look like a Mt Falli x Grande to me but since it is a complex hybrid, I'm not so sure, could be anything.
Paphraguy
March 8th, 2005, 12:57 PM
I don't see any hint of any warscewiczianum in the flower but i could be wrong. I would think the warsce. parent would add the dark dark colors to the flower. So, I think it is probably a Grande hybrid.
mattbrown
March 8th, 2005, 01:01 PM
thanks it just looked much darker in the photo that they posted.
i wanted to use this 4n plant in my breeding program and didn't want any 3n surprises. so you believe that it is labled correctly?
Mt. Fallu X Grande?
do you think they have their pics labled wrong?
Paphraguy
March 8th, 2005, 01:06 PM
thanks it just looked much darker in the photo that they posted.
i wanted to use this 4n plant in my breeding program and didn't want any 3n surprises. so you believe that it is labled correctly?
Mt. Fallu X Grande?
Yes, I think so because I don't see any warsce. in it but please don't take my word for it. You should get more opinion.
mattbrown
March 8th, 2005, 01:10 PM
thanks Peter.
Paphraguy
March 8th, 2005, 01:34 PM
thanks Peter.
You're welcome!
Slipperhead
March 9th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Matt,
I'm not quite sure either but thanks for inserting the photos rather than the links!
mattbrown
March 17th, 2005, 04:48 PM
i went ahead and bought the Bel Croute also:
http://www.mattsorchidcollection.com/images/DSC00003.jpg
http://www.mattsorchidcollection.com/images/DSC00019.jpg
http://www.mattsorchidcollection.com/images/DSC00042.jpg
Paphgirl
March 17th, 2005, 04:53 PM
Nice speckles!
Paphraguy
March 17th, 2005, 11:51 PM
Looks very nice and dark! Good choice!
mattbrown
March 18th, 2005, 12:30 PM
yea, after seeing both of them. THEY definitely have the pictures switched on their site.
Bozo
April 24th, 2005, 12:21 PM
seems to me that it's dangerous to try to separate those rather similar crosses based on color. some Grande are hellishly dark; others are almost pale yellow. same for warscewiczianum--the good ones have the solid mahogany brier pipe pouch, the bad ones aren't darker than a good caudatum. same goes for the longifolium contribution...