View Full Version : breeding with armeniacum
newgrower June 8th, 2009, 04:32 PM So I got some armeniacum pollen from a Very generous man, you know who you are!:hyper:
But when they first came, they were pretty crushed... :( I did not know wether or not the pollen was stil viable, so the donor offered to send me some new ones.
The new pollen I will try and pollinate with primulinum, but that leaves 1 pollen. Should I try and pollinate something with that? I was thinking maybe primulinum var. purpurascens??
I was later told that it should still be possible to breed with the smashed pollen...
What do you guys think?
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj179/newgrower/Orkideer/armpollen.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj179/newgrower/Orkideer/armpollen4.jpg
If it is still possible, should I try and use that pollen also? perhaps on some other plants?
I'm not planning on using any award winning clones or things like that. But I just love making the seeds and making my own plants from scratch...
If you have any suggestions, please do tell.. (just not the more expensive plants like roths and sanderianum)
But what about primulinum purpurascens? Could that make some nice offspring??
Thanks,
kenneth
orchidlover June 8th, 2009, 04:49 PM I would think it should be fine to use a crushed pollen, why not try it? Maybe an expert can weigh in and give you some pointers? As for whatever you want to breed, it is all up to you because it is personal preference. Some may not like it and some love it but if you like it then go for it! :D
valenzino June 8th, 2009, 06:34 PM Absolutely no problem in using that pollen,you can use a little part of each pollen to cross.With 1 pollen mass you can pollinate many plants.(immagine that the insect that go through the flower take up only a little bit of pollen in Paphs).
For the choice of plants to cross with,think that armeniacum gives always interesting outcome.
With P.primulinum var purpurascens will give an interesting P.Gold dollar.(but have to know that mostly all time the yellow from armeniacum is highly dominant).
Also is ok with Cochlopetalums(primulinum,chamberlanianum etc...) because gives quite easy and fast growing outcome sequential,so if you are a "beginner" is the perfect choice.
Also if you have other Paphs in flower,just try also because its not shure that will succed in pollination(also sometime you can lost the pod during maturation) and ,more difficult,germination.So have more different pods and crosses for the first try is a must to be quite shure to "harvest" something.(first time I did it with 6 different crosses and a total of 20 motherflasks).Good luck and have a nice "insect work"!!!
Paphy57 June 8th, 2009, 08:07 PM Pollen is not easy to destroy, so it still should be good. Any cross is possible, so do what your heart desires!
newgrower June 9th, 2009, 01:13 AM Okay, thanks alot for the info and help!
So I should be able to cut of only a little of the yellow pollen and use on a plant?
I guess I'm going to try some different crosses.. :)
valenzino June 9th, 2009, 08:33 AM Okay, thanks alot for the info and help!
So I should be able to cut of only a little of the yellow pollen and use on a plant?
I guess I'm going to try some different crosses.. :)
yes,take a little bit of yellow pollen with a toothpick and use with other Paph.
newgrower June 10th, 2009, 01:05 PM Okay, thank you for the help!
I'm glad i'm not being picked down, here on the forum, for wanting to do some crosses..
I just recently joined the danish orchid society, and it seems that there is some kind of collective "resistance" against doing crosses and making seeds...
But I will tell you what I cross the armeniacum with :D
thanks!
dragonfly22 June 12th, 2009, 02:55 PM Pollen should still be viable like the other posters have already said. Good luck and let us know what you have decided.
skipper June 12th, 2009, 06:06 PM Good luck with your project.
Paul B June 12th, 2009, 06:40 PM Good luck:good:
orchidlover June 13th, 2009, 09:24 AM Okay, thank you for the help!
I'm glad i'm not being picked down, here on the forum, for wanting to do some crosses..
I just recently joined the danish orchid society, and it seems that there is some kind of collective "resistance" against doing crosses and making seeds...
But I will tell you what I cross the armeniacum with :D
thanks!
We have a nice friendly community here, we don't look down upon nor do we pick on other folks so let us know how it goes. :D Keep us updated! :fcrossed:
Brian Monk June 15th, 2009, 05:58 PM Okay, thank you for the help!
I'm glad i'm not being picked down, here on the forum, for wanting to do some crosses..
I just recently joined the danish orchid society, and it seems that there is some kind of collective "resistance" against doing crosses and making seeds...
But I will tell you what I cross the armeniacum with :D
thanks!
I can't help but wonder if the Danish Orchid Society you belong to has a number of commercial growers who are loath to offer insight into their hybridizing. It is their bread and butter, so to speak. But still, good speculative crosses have opened to door to new breeding pathways. Good luck.
newgrower June 17th, 2009, 03:42 PM Hmm, no I don't think thats the reason...
Apperently it is the aspect that it takes a long time before the ofspring mature, it does cost some money and that it takes a toll on the mother plant. Some say they have lost plants, because the motherplant did not have enough energy to make the seeds...
Never the less, it is too bad. But I am young, so I'm thinking i have enough time to make my own offspring, even if I have to do them all by my self.. :)
Brian Monk June 23rd, 2009, 07:46 AM I have heard of plants that were bred to death. But in general, a healthy plant can carry a pd with no issues. That is, after all, what plants do. I have seen in my own plants a setback of a year or more when small plants are used for breeding. I try and use a plant only for breeding when it has more than two growths, and then only every other year. I will set multiple pods on a multi-floral, though I am loath to do so.
|
|